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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 August 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Clare Adamson

Good morning, and welcome to the 31st meeting in 2023 of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee. Our first agenda item is a decision on whether to take business in private. Are members content to take item 6 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

European Union Alignment (Annual Reports)

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Clare Adamson

Our second agenda item is evidence on a series of reports regarding the Scottish Government’s commitment to align with the European Union where appropriate. The reports include a draft of the Scottish Government’s 2023 annual report on use of the keeping pace power in the UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Continuity) (Scotland) Act 2021.

We are joined by Angus Robertson, the Cabinet Secretary for Constitution, External Affairs and Culture. With him from the Scottish Government are George Macpherson, who is the head of EU policy and alignment, and Lorraine Walkinshaw, who is from the legal directorate. I invite the cabinet secretary to make a short—that is what it says here—opening statement. [Laughter.]

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Clare Adamson

I thank the cabinet secretary and his officials for joining us this morning. We are just two minutes over time, cabinet secretary, so it is a good morning.

10:03 Meeting suspended.  

10:07 On resuming—  

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Clare Adamson

Thank you. We are very tight for time—we need to close for chamber business shortly—but I want to squeeze in one final question.

I was interested when Ms Gosal mentioned some of the expertise that Scotland has in education, quantum computing, artificial intelligence and data, robotics and software and games. Outside the European Union, we find ourselves in a situation where Northern Ireland, as a result of the Windsor framework, keeps pace with Europe by default. There is a political statement from the Senedd in Wales and from the Government in Scotland that we should also keep pace with developments in Europe, but the UK Government has no stated objectives. We have recently seen the European Union legislate on AI, and, of course, the UK Government had a recent Bletchley Park summit on that issue.

Can you give a brief reflection on how you influence global issues, such as AI regulation, climate justice or some of the bigger global challenges, and how you have your voices heard in those negotiations, deliberations and summits? I will go to Professor Cornago first.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Clare Adamson

Thank you. I will move to questions from my colleagues and call Mr Stewart first.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Clare Adamson

Good morning, and a warm welcome to the 30th meeting in 2023 of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee. We have received apologies from Kate Forbes, who is being substituted by Audrey Nicoll—a warm welcome to her, too—and from deputy convener, Donald Cameron MSP. I know that our thoughts will be with Donald this week.

Mr Cameron will be substituted by Pam Gosal, whom I welcome to the committee. As this is your first time here, Pam, I invite you to make a declaration of interests.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Clare Adamson

Our main agenda item this morning is the continuation of our evidence taking for the committee’s inquiry into the Scottish Government’s national outcomes and indicators relating to international policy. We are joined remotely by Noé Cornago, associate professor of international law and international relationships, University of the Basque Country; and Professor Stéphane Paquin from the national school of public administration in Quebec. Thank you both for joining us this morning, but a special thank you to our colleague from Quebec—I understand that this will be a very early start for you this morning.

I will open with a general question about how civil society plays a part in the paradiplomacy that happens in your countries. I will bring in Noé Cornago first.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Clare Adamson

I would like to ask a supplementary along the lines of Mr Stewart’s questioning. When the committee visited Brussels, it met the Canadian mission. Given the new situation that Scotland finds itself in outside the European Union, can you tell us how Quebec integrates with the Canadian mission as a third party in Brussels? Moreover, how does Basque paradiplomacy happen in Brussels, given that the Basque Country itself is still within the European Union?

10:15  

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Clare Adamson

I will take a supplementary question from Mr Bibby, then bring Ms Nicoll back in.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

National Outcomes

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Clare Adamson

I think that it is fine.