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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 January 2026
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Clare Adamson

We come to our second evidence session this morning as part of our pre-budget scrutiny for 2026-27. We are joined in the room by Angus Robertson, the Cabinet Secretary for Constitution, External Affairs and Culture; Lisa Baird, the deputy director for culture and historic environment at the Scottish Government; and Alison Byrne, the chief executive of National Records of Scotland. A warm welcome to you all this morning.

Cabinet secretary, we have just had an evidence session that looked at the relationship and overlap between culture and tourism and other areas. The committee has been keen to pursue the idea of cross-portfolio working and how we get culture embedded across those other areas. From your perspective, what progress has been made in that area?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Clare Adamson

I have made a commitment to examine how we as a committee can return to this issue, but for the moment, if your question is not about the budget or the budget process, can we please move on?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Clare Adamson

Thank you, cabinet secretary. We will move to questions from Mr Brown.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Clare Adamson

We have seen examples such as the new curriculum offer, which you have just referred to. There is also the pupil equity fund, which headteachers very often use to engage with cultural organisations. During the festival, I was able to see one of our local charities, which addresses mental health through stand-up, music and creative writing, perform at the fringe and, indeed, it did exceptionally well. We really want to see a focus on culture in that sort of thing. The most recent mental health strategy, for example, contains one line on culture, I think, but surely there should be a bigger focus on that if we are truly to explore the opportunities that are presented by culture and its value in other portfolio areas.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Clare Adamson

Good morning, and a warm welcome to the 24th meeting of the Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee in 2025. Our first agenda item is continued evidence for our pre-budget scrutiny for 2026-27. We are joined in the room by Iain Munro, chief executive of Creative Scotland, and Alastair Evans, director of strategy and planning at Creative Scotland. We are tight for time this morning, so we will move straight to questions.

We heard from witnesses last week that there is a tension between utilising additional funding to support a greater number of organisations and providing additional support for organisations that are already in receipt of funding. Are you aware of that tension, and how do you balance those decision-making processes?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Clare Adamson

Thank you for that. You mentioned that the applicants had been realistic about the current financial challenges that the industry and the sector face. A few years ago, we were talking about the perfect storm, but every year we come back to that point and sometimes it feels as if there has been no progress. Are you confident that progress is being made and accepted in the industry and that you are seeing the benefits of the strategies? Are the projects with multiyear funding getting off the ground?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 25 September 2025

Clare Adamson

Thank you. We will now move to questions from committee members. Mr Kerr will be first, followed by Mr Harvie.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Clare Adamson

Jamie Halcro Johnston has a quick supplementary question.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Clare Adamson

I want to end with a very quick supplementary on the basic income scheme. The committee took evidence on that from the Irish Government when we visited Dublin a few years ago; of course, it is a whole-Ireland scheme, but perhaps I can put that into context by pointing out that, when it was launched, Ireland had a €10 billion surplus, and it now has an estimated surplus of €23.7 billion. We are facing quite different challenges. That said, we have also taken evidence from Traditional Arts and Culture Scotland, which has talked about the French scheme supporting traditional arts and culture, and I am a wee bit interested in the Canadian scheme, too. Is there just a difference in the general attitude to culture and art in those countries that makes putting such schemes in place more acceptable to the population and the taxpayer?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Clare Adamson

Alison, could I clarify the figures that you gave for library spend per head? You quoted figures from Ireland and Lithuania, I think. Were you quoting euros, as opposed to pounds?