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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Liz Smith

Ironically, current civil servants made the case that, on issues such as Covid and Ukraine, decision making was actually quite good because those situations were so desperately urgent and serious that things worked out pretty well. The pre-Covid and pre-Ukraine former ministers and former civil servants argued very forcefully that far too many decisions were not good because they were so unstructured.

This morning, the gender recognition situation and issues around ferries, BiFab, Prestwick airport and the census have been flagged up. We can add to that the deposit return scheme, highly protected marine areas and the national care service—the list of concerns about effective decision making by the Scottish Government goes on. In all those cases, I am sure that the Scottish Government argues that it could have done things better. Our concern as a committee is that the Scottish Government is perhaps not listening carefully enough to stakeholders who are on the front line of delivering those policies.

As I say, the Scottish Government’s record on a lot of those issues has not been very good. Do you accept that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Liz Smith

Deputy First Minister, former ministers and former civil servants said that some financial rules that we have as standard practice for decision making have been found, on occasion, to be “optional”. It is a concern for the committee that proper practice for the financial management of policies is sometimes not adhered to. Is that a concern for the Scottish Government?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Liz Smith

Thank you for that. I urge you to reflect on what the Auditor General has said about public finance and the need for additional scrutiny and transparency, because, as you know, he has not been very comfortable about that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Administration in the Scottish Government

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Liz Smith

It was put to us in the context that, when it came to various procurement issues—whether in relation to Burntisland Fabrications, Prestwick airport or various other things—it would have helped if there had been more civil servants who had experience of the necessary decision making.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 16 May 2023

Liz Smith

It was unstructured.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Liz Smith

Good morning. A key issue that has been exercising committee members’ minds throughout our evidence sessions relates to how much clarity of purpose there is when it comes to decision making. If there is not that clarity, it is very difficult to get good-quality decision making. How easy do you find it to set in motion that clarity of purpose? Do you have a good understanding of what clarity of purpose is when it comes to decision making?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Liz Smith

Thank you. That was helpful.

Have the other two witnesses identified any difficulties in establishing clarity of purpose on what they are trying to achieve?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Effective Scottish Government Decision Making

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Liz Smith

That is very helpful. Several of us here had an excellent visit to the Welsh Senedd a couple of months ago and were very taken with quite a few things that we heard. Please pass that back.

I ask our final witness to finish the discussion on clarity of purpose.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Liz Smith

Minister, you talked in your opening remarks about the initial engagement with stakeholders and said that the evidence that they provided was the basis for the first attempt at a financial memorandum. You are now suggesting that the second financial memorandum will have to take cognisance of the fact that some of that evidence was perhaps not as complete as it might have been. What will have to be added to the second financial memorandum, given that the evidence that you took for the first one is turning out not to be accurate?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Liz Smith

Given the criticism of the bill that has been levelled by the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities and various other groups, do you expect that, at that meeting, they will come forward with a carefully worded argument to the Scottish Government about what they think would need to be adjusted in the second financial memorandum in order to give an accurate reflection of the costs? Is that your understanding?