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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Liz Smith

The Scottish Biometrics Commissioner, on the previous panel, said that he was slightly surprised that, given that he had submitted seven reports, he was questioned only once. As children’s commissioner, do you feel that you are being scrutinised well enough?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Liz Smith

You have obviously got a very high-profile commissioner job. As the convener hinted at, it is not one of the ones that people would seek to undermine, given the good work that happens there. Do you feel, with that high-profile nature, that the scrutiny tends to increase? Is it your view that that is what happens and that for other commissioners, who are not quite so much in the public eye, that scrutiny process is not as strong?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Liz Smith

How would we go about making that comparison? How do we decide whether the right person to do something is a commissioner, rather than a champion or some other public sector body, whoever it might be, maybe not living up to their reputation? What should the criteria be for us, as a Parliament, to use in deciding on that outcome?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Liz Smith

Dr Plastow, you gave an interesting response earlier when you said that you had been a bit surprised that you had not been asked for further scrutiny on the seven reports that you have done over your time. Do you think that the Parliament could benefit from greater scrutiny of such reports on a more regular basis, so that we are deciding what has been delivered effectively and what has not?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Liz Smith

It is much more difficult with the advocacy remits to define what it is that you are trying to do than if you are regulatory or dealing with complaints, where that is easier to measure. Our difficulty—and the Parliament’s difficulty—is that quite a few of the potential new commissioners are to do with advocacy. To try to measure and define what it is that they are going to be looking at is quite difficult. Thank you very much for your comments. They are very helpful.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Liz Smith

Ms Agnew, you raised an interesting point earlier when you said that you felt that there was a bit of a gap sometimes. Does that gap come about because other bodies that could be looking after a problem are not doing their job sufficiently well? One of the questions that the committee is looking at is the almost doubling of the number of commissioners in future. Quite a lot of the new proposals are about commissioners who have an advocacy purpose. Has that resulted from the fact that there are other areas or other public bodies that are not doing as much as they could to address a problem?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Liz Smith

If you are considering potential overlap, that means that comments must have been provided about other commissioners. Did those comments not raise questions? Let me put it this way: do you think that there should be an overall strategy for commissions?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Liz Smith

I will ask one more question, specifically on the issue of an autism and learning disability commissioner. Do you feel that the demand for the new commissioner resulted from the needs of those vulnerable groups of people not being as well looked after as those of other groups? Has that situation arisen, because there are gaps in the care that they fully deserve and to which they are entitled, or has the proposal been made in addition to the care that is provided?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Liz Smith

May I just pursue that? With all due respect, this committee is looking at the big picture. The committee needs to do that from the perspective of getting an overview and carrying out scrutiny, but it needs to look at the cost aspect, too. Therefore, when I see the title of that report, I think that it is exactly what the committee wants to look at—the role of commissions and commissioners in Scotland and the impact that the UK might have on that.

The issue that the committee has to look at is commissioners who have different roles. You have been very clear that your research relates to advocacy for one particular group, but there are other commissioners, some of whom handle complaints, some of whom have a regulatory role and some of whom have an investigatory role. The committee wants some idea of the whole picture. With regard to your specific remit, do you have any concern that there is no overall strategy for that bigger picture and what it might be?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 16 April 2024

Liz Smith

I am sorry, but I did not say that—I did not say that at all. What I am saying is that it is only part of the bigger picture.