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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Graham Simpson

Thanks, convener. I also used to live in the north-east of England and I have attended Newcastle v Sunderland matches. I have also attended many old firm games as a supporter, but I have never witnessed anything like what we saw on Sunday. It was absolutely appalling. I just could not believe what I was seeing.

I asked a question in Parliament yesterday about the silence of both clubs, which you touched on. Have you spoken to either club yet? Have they said anything publicly? I have not seen them say anything.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Graham Simpson

In that case, it did not look as though there were turnstiles. It must have been a door that was open or a gate.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Graham Simpson

You cannot wash your hands of it, Mr McGillivray. That is just not acceptable. Dr Plastow’s criticism is that we do not even have a biometrics strategy, and we do not. Surely we should have one, irrespective of whether we have one police force or 43—that is irrelevant. There needs to be a strategy.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Graham Simpson

Do you have a view on that, chief constable?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Graham Simpson

I am a bit of a fan of cop shows on telly. I watched one recently in which one of the police forces in England had hundreds of pieces of closed-circuit television and was trying to track someone, and it used AI to do so, which was quite amazing. It saved hours of time, and the police actually managed, using AI, to find somebody. That is where it could be used, is it not?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Graham Simpson

Mr Rennick, do you want to say anything?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Graham Simpson

Thanks for your patience, convener. I thought that those were important areas to cover.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Graham Simpson

One of the videos that has been widely seen was of supporters charging into the ground through a disabled access point, barging stewards out of the way. I hope that nobody was hurt there. That should not have happened. I am not blaming the police for that, but it should not be able to happen, so there needs to be an inquiry. Were your officers nearby when that happened?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Graham Simpson

At most games, you do not need a lot of police officers, I would have thought. However, you definitely need far more at a Celtic-Rangers game. Does it come down to money and how much the clubs are prepared to pay for policing inside the ground?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Meeting date: 11 March 2026

Graham Simpson

So why is it not taking place?