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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 29 September 2026
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Transport Committee [Draft]

Regional Transport Authorities

Meeting date: 23 September 2026

Graham Simpson

I am interested in the info that you sent us. Just to be clear, you run all the buses in Shetland. Is that correct?

Transport Committee [Draft]

Regional Transport Authorities

Meeting date: 23 September 2026

Graham Simpson

Right. You have about 30 companies. Are they all badged the same? If I get on a bus, do they all look the same or do they have—

Transport Committee [Draft]

Regional Transport Authorities

Meeting date: 23 September 2026

Graham Simpson

I live in Strathclyde and I am extremely jealous—I hope that Bruce Kiloh will deliver the service that you have in Shetland at some point. Maybe we will get there.

I know that other members want to come in. Thank you, convener.

Transport Committee [Draft]

Regional Transport Authorities

Meeting date: 23 September 2026

Graham Simpson

I do not want to hog the conversation, because we have a lot to get through. On smart ticketing, I will stick with you, Bruce, because you mentioned that you can use your bank card to tap in and out on the subway. I must admit that, until recently, I did not know that, and I use the subway—I have just been buying a ticket. When you get to a station, it is not immediately obvious that you can use your bank card, but, in future, I will do that. If we have the technology to do that, why can we not have a system, like the one in London, that would allow you to use your bank card on the subway and buses, with a daily fare cap applied to all bus and subway journeys in the Strathclyde region? Maybe we do have that facility.

Transport Committee [Draft]

Regional Transport Authorities

Meeting date: 23 September 2026

Graham Simpson

I welcome the witnesses. It is good to see those of you in the room. There are different models of regional transport partnerships. To set the scene, could you explain what each of your bodies are for? I will start with Bruce Kiloh before we move to Mark Speed. I will then go to Councillor Lyall, if she is back online and can hear us.

Transport Committee [Draft]

Regional Transport Authorities

Meeting date: 23 September 2026

Graham Simpson

So, in your area, there is a bit of an appetite to move from model 1 to model 3 eventually.

Transport Committee [Draft]

Regional Transport Authorities

Meeting date: 23 September 2026

Graham Simpson

Somebody else will ask you specifically about mobility as a service.

Transport Committee [Draft]

Regional Transport Authorities

Meeting date: 23 September 2026

Graham Simpson

I am interested in that, personally, but another member will ask you more about it later.

Councillor Lyall is still not with us, so I will move on.

I did not ask you that question, Bruce, because I know that SPT does a lot, and I think that we would notice if you went, because you run quite a bit, so the question does not really apply in the same way as it applies to Mark. Would you agree with that?

Transport Committee [Draft]

Regional Transport Authorities

Meeting date: 23 September 2026

Graham Simpson

The committee has talked about this before, but the technology is there—it exists. There is what one might call some institutional resistance—I am not talking about you, Bruce; it could be bus companies or whatever—to driving this forward. I just wanted to make that point.

Councillor Lyall, what sort of integrated ticketing do you have in Shetland? If I were to go to Shetland, would I be able to buy one ticket that would get me on the bus and then on to the ferry?

Transport Committee [Draft]

Regional Transport Authorities

Meeting date: 23 September 2026

Graham Simpson

I agree with you completely on that point, convener. The figures that you read out are stark.

To be frank, one of the reasons why there is not much outrage is down to some of our colleagues. Generally, politicians and other people in politics are not as passionate about the subject as you and I are. Some of them are dead against spending money on active travel, which is why we do not have outrage.

Investing in active travel would benefit the health of the nation and, I would argue, the economy—it would certainly benefit local economies. For some of the bike hire schemes in Edinburgh and Glasgow, uptake has been massively successful. I was reading that, on one route in Glasgow, there are more people cycling than there are driving. That shows that, if we invest in such routes, people will use them.

The outrage needs to come from you and me, and from others on the committee, because some of our colleagues let us down. That has been a long-standing problem, so perhaps the committee could take up the issue and champion it.

That was not a question. It was another rant.