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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Meeting of the Parliament

Scotland’s Renewable Future

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Graham Simpson

Nuclear power stations are—if the minister stops interrupting from a sedentary position, I will get the answer out—mostly by the coast. Central Scotland, minister? Think about it.

The recent report from the Energy & Climate Intelligence Unit and Confederation of British Industry economics showed that Scotland has had the UK’s highest growth in economic activity from net zero businesses since 2022, and the green sector has grown at breakneck speed—by a fifth. Renewables make up 4.9 per cent of the Scottish economy, generating £9.1 billion in gross value added for Scotland. Over the same period, total employment supported by the net zero economy in Scotland has grown by 19.5 per cent, which is equivalent to 16,500 full-time jobs.

I am worried about Mr Lumsden’s blood pressure on many occasions, but today, he was certainly right when he posed the question whether we should put all our eggs in one basket. The answer to that must be no. Energy security and getting bills down have to be a priority. The oil and gas sector supports 83,700 jobs, so we cannot just shut it down. Everyone in the chamber wants Grangemouth—which is in my region—to survive, but they should reflect on their relentlessly negative stance towards what it produces.

If we accept that we need more electricity, we have to get it from A to B. There can be no transition without transmission. Scotland will be a key part of that journey, with billions of pounds invested and the potential to unlock wider economic growth. However, that must be done with community involvement.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scotland’s Renewable Future

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Graham Simpson

Yes.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scotland’s Renewable Future

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Graham Simpson

I am just finishing. The Government’s bizarre motion should be rejected. We need a mix of electricity supply, and Scotland should play its part in that.

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Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Graham Simpson

My conclusion from that answer is that the 20 per cent is just a made-up figure. As the Auditor General said, it could have been anything—it could have been 10 per cent, 15 per cent or even 30 per cent. It does not seem to be based on anything, and certainly not on anything realistic.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Graham Simpson

Absolutely. It is really stretching.

I will quote from paragraph 14 of your report, but I will convert the figures from kilometres to miles. I was disappointed that, in your report, you fell into the Scottish Government trap of using kilometres and not miles. If I were to ask you how far it is from Edinburgh to Glasgow, you would not give me the distance in kilometres. Just bear with me—I am going to use real money.

The report says:

“To achieve the target, car traffic levels will need to decrease by”

4.5 billion miles to 18 billion miles

“compared to a 2019 baseline. The last time car traffic levels were at this level was in 1994.”

You also say:

“Transport Scotland estimates that to achieve a 20 per cent reduction in car”

miles

“by 2030, public transport capacity would need to increase by 222 per cent.”

None of that is achievable and it never was. Based on that, and based on the lack of a plan, do you think that the Government should just be honest and say that it has ditched the target?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Graham Simpson

That is fine—I am happy to leave it there.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Graham Simpson

Where do you think that the target came from? Where do you think that we got the figure of 20 per cent from?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Graham Simpson

I am hearing some audio feedback, which Mr Bell got as well. I wonder whether that can be sorted.

I did not see anything in the consultation that was launched this week that said that the Government is dropping its target—did you?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Graham Simpson

Okay. I am not sure whether you agree with me there. I just think that the Government ought to be honest about it and say, “We’re never going to achieve this,” and either drop the target or change it.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Graham Simpson

Okay; that is fine. That delivery plan—you could call it a route map; it is the same thing—has not appeared yet. You are saying that the Government needs to publish that. I do not think that it will. If the Government has dropped the target, it will not publish a route map to hit a target that it will not achieve. We will wait and see. If the Government were to publish such a plan, what level of detail needs to be in it?