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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Was it Mr Tydeman who approved the arrangement?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Graham Simpson

I will follow on from the line of questioning about Ferguson Marine’s business plan. According to you, the plan

“assumed the direct award of the contract for the Small Vessel Replacement Programme”.

It was wrong to make that assumption, as it cannot be assumed that the firm is going to get that work. Indeed, it later transpired that the firm is now one of six firms in line for that contract, so there is no guarantee that it will get it. Does that not fatally hull the business plan?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Before John Boyd comes in on that, can you say whether there has there been any attempt to change the business plan in light of the new development that means that the firm has to compete for the work? I think that it was entirely predictable that that would be the case. Has Ferguson Marine done any revision to the business plan?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Graham Simpson

So, those are basically costs that the yard has but cannot charge for. It is not getting that money back but it potentially amounts to an extraordinary figure—£1 million a month.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow (Holdings) Limited”

Meeting date: 16 January 2025

Graham Simpson

I have one more question. Others will cover other areas, but I want to ask you a question about something that is not covered in your report. Will you bring us up to speed with your efforts to scrutinise Ferguson Marine Engineering Ltd’s accounting records?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Are you saying that the retainer should have covered those costs?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Okay, that is fine.

As I said, I will not go through the entire list, but there was another item that caught my eye. In paragraph 80, you say:

“Our testing also identified two further instances of meals, totalling £590.23, where the cost per head exceeded £50 per head and included external guests. One of these was a meal at the Road Hole Restaurant in St Andrews costing £370 that was attended by a visiting water services regulator and his wife.”

Is it normal practice that somebody’s spouse would be covered when being entertained?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Despite the assurances that you have been given, are you continuing to monitor the spending on an on-going basis?

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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

What kind of event might be considered—

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

I have also read the media report, but I checked, and the tender notice appears on the Government portal, so they have gone through that. You will be able to find that yourself. It just struck me that it is a large amount of money to find one person. I suppose that you will have to make an assessment at some point as to whether that is value for money. However, it on the Government portal; I am not just relying on a media report that you also read.