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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 January 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Graham Simpson

The meeting has been very interesting so far. Before I ask about Awaab’s law, I note that we have had some discussion already about the need to look at buildings as a whole. Shona Gorman mentioned guttering, which sounds dull but is actually not: it is so important. One flat that I rented in Edinburgh was a top-floor flat. I could see the gutters from my window and they were never cleaned, which I knew was just storing up problems.

If I can blow my own trumpet and that of some other MSPs, I note that in the previous session of the Parliament we formed what is still known as the tenement maintenance working group. The idea was that a lot of the problems that we have in flatted properties in Scotland result from their not being properly maintained. We thought then, and still do, that there is an issue around tenement law and that things really need to be done.

We have produced a report. There were recommendations in it—one of which was that there should be regular inspections of properties. The issue is now sitting with the Scottish Law Commission, and we are likely to see proposals from it in the next session of the Parliament.

Shona, perhaps I can come to you because you mentioned gutters. We are not just talking about people in rented properties, are we? We are talking about private homeowners as well, and we need to look at properties in the round.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Graham Simpson

Do any witnesses have views on the responsibility of factors for maintaining buildings properly?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Building Safety and Maintenance

Meeting date: 18 March 2025

Graham Simpson

I get that. If we are talking about building to Passivhaus standards, the person living in that property needs to know how the property works, basically. They almost need an instruction manual, and they need to follow those instructions. Is that what you are saying?

Public Audit Committee

“Fiscal sustainability and public reform in Scotland”

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Graham Simpson

I agree that you should not really brag about the number of words that you have written—the important thing is what you write, not how much you write.

I will ask a quick question on the medium-term financial strategy. It requires a quick answer. What period will it cover?

Public Audit Committee

“Fiscal sustainability and public reform in Scotland”

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Graham Simpson

A five-year period. Good.

I will ask a question of you, Mr Marks, because—surprisingly—you mentioned the cruise ship levy in your opening statement. I speak regularly with people in the travel sector, and did so last week. There is real concern about the cruise ship levy and its potential impact. The cruise sector is becoming a success story for Scotland, so there are fears that the levy could impact on it. Have you heard those concerns? What analysis have you done, and what conversations are you having with the sector?

Public Audit Committee

“Fiscal sustainability and public reform in Scotland”

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Graham Simpson

It is mainly public sector bodies that are involved.

Public Audit Committee

“Fiscal sustainability and public reform in Scotland”

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Graham Simpson

A number of other areas that are covered in the report also face potential challenges. Exhibit 3 shows them quite starkly, and the report says:

“By the end of 2028/29, the Scottish Fiscal Commission expects the Scottish Government will spend £1.5 billion more on social security than it receives from the UK Government.”

Paragraph 16 says:

“The spending pressures the Scottish Government and the wider devolved public sector face are expected to worsen in the long term. The Scottish Fiscal Commission has projected that total spending on devolved public services would increase by 123 per cent in today’s prices to £120 billion by 2072/73”.

The Auditor General is really stretching things there; I am not sure how he can look that far ahead, but that is what the report says. Health is also covered. That faces similar challenges. Do you accept that those challenges exist across a whole range of spending?

Public Audit Committee

“Fiscal sustainability and public reform in Scotland”

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Graham Simpson

But we do not have an accurate figure.

Public Audit Committee

“Fiscal sustainability and public reform in Scotland”

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Graham Simpson

If we look at pay deals, which are covered from paragraph 38 onwards of the Auditor General’s report and in exhibit 5, we see that some of them are frankly unsustainable. How will you be able to fund those in future years?

Public Audit Committee

“Fiscal sustainability and public reform in Scotland”

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Graham Simpson

What kinds of bids are coming in?