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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 September 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Let me put it this way. Let us say that a constituency MSP decides to stand down in disgrace. They do not bother with a recall; they just say, “Right, I’m off”—they have done something bad and they are going. What would happen then? There would be a by-election. Under your system—I am not saying that you are proposing this, but you are putting it to me as a question—there would be no by-election.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

We currently have MSPs with caring responsibilities. There are MSPs with young children, and they manage to make things work. The proposal does not penalise anyone. All that it is asking is that somebody physically come into the building once every six months. That is not too much to expect of an elected member of this Parliament.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

I do not consider voters to be that easily confused. If a member was subject to a recall vote, there would be quite a lot of publicity around that.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Sorry.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

In the bill, “attendance” means coming in.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

I think that you would need to give somebody an opportunity to state their case.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

It is very important. I just would not be comfortable with setting a figure—and certainly not 10 per cent.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

My approach to stage 2 is that I am open to any suggestions on any part of the bill if they would improve the bill and if it can be demonstrated that they would work. I go back to the phrase “fair and proportionate”, which I have used several times—any proposed system should be fair and proportionate. The process needs to be fair to every member of the Parliament. I do not think that it would be fair to remove somebody without their having had the opportunity to state their case; the fact that they had simply met a trigger would not be good enough. If we were to have that in a regional context, we ought to have it in a constituency context, too.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Are you talking about recall or non-attendance?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 June 2025

Graham Simpson

No, I do not see that coming into play. I cannot see religion being relevant, really.