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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 19 June 2025
Graham Simpson
I know. I really do not think that the threat of a fearsome whip is enough, to be honest. Actual hard-and-fast rules need to be set down, otherwise the scenario that I have set out is possible. What if somebody just decided to ignore you, Ms Mackay?
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 19 June 2025
Graham Simpson
It is an area that should be looked at further, but it should be left to regulations.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 19 June 2025
Graham Simpson
I do not think that it would be strong enough. The code of conduct can be easily changed, so anything that you did now could be changed later.
My starting point was the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973, which applies to councillors and which I mentioned earlier. It seemed to me that, if we have a law that requires a certain level of attendance by councillors, we really ought to have the same for MSPs. However, as you know, there is currently nothing in that regard.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 19 June 2025
Graham Simpson
No, I do not think so. The provision aims to capture people—I am not going to name names—who have just decided that they are not going to come in. It has happened in councils and it will happen here. I hope that it is a rare event, but people are people—
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 19 June 2025
Graham Simpson
The parliamentary authorities would have to come up with a system for monitoring attendance. I am not going to lay that out in detail—I do not think that that would be right. This committee would certainly have a role if somebody was falling foul of the requirement to attend, and we have to trust the members of this committee to keep issues private, as they do—I think that this committee works very well.
In previous meetings, the issue arose of whether, in such cases, this committee should have lay members, so that decisions could be de-politicised. The bill does not address that, but it is perhaps something that should be considered.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 19 June 2025
Graham Simpson
I am confident that the members of this committee would ensure that stuff did not leak. It would be a serious matter if it did. Membership of this committee comes with certain responsibilities, and confidentiality is one of them. I have never sat on this committee, but I am sure that you deal with things that are confidential, and there have been no leaks. We just have to trust members of this committee to do their job.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 19 June 2025
Graham Simpson
The bill does define it. Section 26(2) states:
“due to the person’s failure to physically attend proceedings as a member, the Parliament has resolved to disqualify the person in accordance with standing orders made by virtue of section 27 of the Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Act 2025.”
That is the vote that you would have in order to disqualify the person in accordance with standing orders.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 19 June 2025
Graham Simpson
It means physically being in a committee meeting or in the chamber.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 19 June 2025
Graham Simpson
Here—this Parliament.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee
Meeting date: 19 June 2025
Graham Simpson
It means attending a committee meeting such as this one or a session in the chamber; it does not mean attending a cross-party group or a reception in the Parliament.