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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Graham Simpson

Okay.

I come back to New College Lanarkshire. In that section of the report, you say that the college is working

“with the SFC around a financial recovery plan.”

Do you have any details of what that involves for that college?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Graham Simpson

That is something else that could be of interest, especially if there are recovery plans for other colleges. The committee might take an interest in that.

You mentioned the regional boards and the situation with the Glasgow Colleges Regional Board. I think that you said that the consultation on that closed in September. Do you know what will happen next and what the timescale is?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Graham Simpson

That is correct.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Graham Simpson

Quite right.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Graham Simpson

Will you ask for that list?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Graham Simpson

Where would we get that information? It is quite important to know. Obviously, if they are teaching staff, that can have an impact on the curriculum. We need to know whether that continual downward spiral of staff will affect the delivery of the curriculum.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Graham Simpson

Are you just assuming that most are teaching staff, or do you actually know that?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Graham Simpson

Okay. Has any analysis been done on the impact on course delivery? Have courses been cut?

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Graham Simpson

That is interesting because, if colleges are using ALFs to fund redundancy, at some point, that money will run out and they will not be able to fund redundancy.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2024”

Meeting date: 3 October 2024

Graham Simpson

It sounds like we might have to follow up with the SFC about that, as well. Anyway, the committee will discuss that later.

Your report lists some colleges as examples. I am looking at information on New College Lanarkshire, on page 13, because it is in the region that I represent. It has

“a deficit ... of -£3.6 million”,

which was up

“from -£1.8 million the previous year.”

Your report goes on to note that

“Sixty staff left the college under voluntary severance ... at a cost of £1.2 ... million but”

that

“did not deliver the recurring savings budgeted.”

I hope that I am not making too big a leap here, but is there a risk—not just at New College Lanarkshire, but at other colleges—of compulsory redundancies coming down the line if colleges find that they have not managed to make savings using the voluntary route?