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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Graham Simpson

But how were you able to link the two? How was that possible?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Graham Simpson

How far do you think it should go? Should we just keep increasing the price of drink in Scotland, year on year?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Graham Simpson

Yes, a very brief question, convener.

Caroline, in your letter, you list a number of stakeholders that you are liaising with, such as the Scottish Health Action on Alcohol Problems, Alcohol Focus Scotland and the Scottish Alcohol Counselling Consortium. It struck me that nobody on that list is actually involved in the drinks sector—the Scottish Beer and Pubs Association would be just one example. Do you also take advice from people who are involved in serving the public?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2024: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 12 December 2024

Graham Simpson

Yes, the deputy convener helpfully touched on some areas that I want to ask you about.

Let us return to the so-called “national conversation”. You say repeatedly, in report after report, that we need reform. You have made that point very clear in this report, and you touch on this “national conversation”.

I do not know whether such a national conversation has been going on. The health secretary announced that there was to be one—I know that he spent some time talking to football fans, but I am not aware that a national conversation around the health service is actually starting. Have you seen any evidence of that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2024: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 12 December 2024

Graham Simpson

My problem is that the phrase “national conversation” is thrown about by the Government and has almost become a new buzz phrase that does not actually mean anything. I am not clear who the Government is meant to be talking to or what the conversation is meant to be about. Do you have any clarity on what that phrase actually means in relation to the health service?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2024: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 12 December 2024

Graham Simpson

If the Scottish Government is saying that one in five of the things that happen in the NHS—let us express it that way—is of limited clinical value, whatever that means, is it up to the Government to tell us what it means by that—in other words, to spell it out?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2024: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 12 December 2024

Graham Simpson

Are you able to say more about the change of procedure that you mentioned a few minutes ago?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2024: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 12 December 2024

Graham Simpson

This might be superseded now, but the Government was telling boards that there was a savings cap of 3 per cent. That has now been overtaken by the Government saying that brokerage is not going to be available, so they should not bother asking.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2024: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 12 December 2024

Graham Simpson

When we talk about reform, we are potentially talking about making choices. One of your recommendations is:

“The Scottish Government and NHS boards should: Ahead of 2025/26, jointly identify areas of limited clinical value and consider how services can be provided more efficiently, or withdrawn.”

Did you have anything particular in mind? Can you give an example of something that, in your view, is of limited clinical value?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2024: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 12 December 2024

Graham Simpson

Okay. Thank you for that. I have a feeling that we will come back to that, whatever the Government says.