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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 31 December 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Graham Simpson

Is it possible that the taxpayer—because it is ultimately the taxpayer who funds the bank—could lose all £34 million?

Public Audit Committee

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Graham Simpson

I get that—listen, I completely get that. There are risks and there are rewards, and I am not obsessing about this one. I think that, if the M Squared loss was the whole £34 million, the two losses together would represent around 5 per cent of the money that has been invested so far by the bank. You can correct me if I am wrong.

Public Audit Committee

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Graham Simpson

So, you would accept that.

Public Audit Committee

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Graham Simpson

I am sorry to keep focusing on losses, but I will ask about the other side in a minute. Probably the most high-profile loss was Circularity Scotland. When Willie Watt was at the committee, I asked him whether the bank had underestimated the politicisation of the deposit return scheme, and he said that it probably had. I am paraphrasing.

Were there lessons for the bank and even for the Government in such a scheme? It was highly political.

Public Audit Committee

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Graham Simpson

Members of the committee were chatting earlier, and we were a bit unclear about whether Krucial had appointed administrators. You are saying that it has done that.

Public Audit Committee

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Graham Simpson

That is interesting. Would you say that it is taking what we might describe as less risky investments now?

Public Audit Committee

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Graham Simpson

That is great. Those are very good examples. I am particularly excited about ZeroAvia.

I have a final question. You mentioned housing. In a previous session, when we looked at other models and other development banks around the world, there was a brief discussion about the KfW Development Bank in Germany, which has been around for 80 years and does a lot of work on public housing. That is one model. We also looked at the Connecticut Green Bank, which helps to fund net zero projects in that state. Have you considered and learned from other models around the world?

Meeting of the Parliament

Residential Outdoor Education

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Graham Simpson

We do not really need to hear all that. All that we need to know is whether the Government will lay a financial resolution by 26 September.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scotland’s Railway (20 Years)

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Graham Simpson

The Cabinet Secretary for Transport has disappointed me. She persists in using kilometres, as she has done in the Government motion, when we use miles in this country. The “570 kilometres” in the motion should be “354 miles”.

I think that we all want ScotRail to succeed. Many of us use the train regularly. It is the backbone of Scotland’s public transport system, but we must accept that there are challenges with it. In the past year alone, more than 17,000 train services were cancelled and far too many are still not arriving on time.

Meeting of the Parliament

Scotland’s Railway (20 Years)

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Graham Simpson

I will.

There is more work to do, but we must celebrate what has been done well and must thank the staff of ScotRail for doing that.