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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

That is a very topical subject.

Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

You also say:

“The number of people receiving Adult Disability Payment is forecast to grow from 379,000 in 2024-25 to 703,000 in 2030-31.”

I had to pinch myself when I read that. According to the Scottish Fiscal Commission, that would lead to the costs rising from £3.1 billion to £5.4 billion. Those are huge sums. I presume that that figure would increase further if your recommendations were followed. All this is becoming rather unsustainable, is it not?

Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

Auditor General, when I was reading your report and reading up on the Promise, it was not quite clear in my mind what the Promise is. Are you clear on what it means?

Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

It is directed at Andrew Burns. You said earlier that 15 children’s services planning partnerships have the Promise as a priority, which leaves a number that do not. Do you have a list of those that do not that you can provide to us, perhaps in writing? Do you know why they do not have the issue as a priority?

Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

Do you know which 15 have it as a priority?

Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

You say in the foreword to your report that you are

“concerned with how the changes at UK level may impact disabled people in Scotland especially in relation to how people in receipt of certain rates of Adult Disability Payment may be entitled to other benefits.”

Can you expand on that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

I will come to that. Not everyone has to answer the question.

Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

Okay. I will put a final point to you. As I just read out to you, Mr Anderson said that

“the barrier is often not process but people”.

Who do you think he is referring to? He also said:

“We have seen decisions delayed, accountability avoided, and the urgency of lived experience overlooked.”

That suggests to me that there is systemic failure. However, the comment about the barrier being “people not process” is particularly strong. It suggests that there are people in the system who are not doing what they should be doing.

Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

The figures that I quoted are from your report.

Public Audit Committee [Draft}

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Graham Simpson

Okay.