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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 February 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”, and “Financial sustainability and taxes”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Graham Simpson

I will take a step back to where the convener started, when he was asking about WICS and Historic Environment Scotland. It is fair to say that both those organisations had a somewhat cavalier approach to spending our money. We had a number of sessions on WICS, and I vividly recall that we were assured by the Government that there was nothing else to find; it had had a look at the matter and no one else was operating in that manner—and yet, someone was: Historic Environment Scotland. I know that we will come on to ask about that later. How can we be assured that there is not another quango that is adopting those same spending practices?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”, and “Financial sustainability and taxes”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Graham Simpson

If the yard has asked for another £12.5 million, that has to come from somewhere. Somewhere else will be losing out in the Scottish budget because we are pouring money into that vessel.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”, and “Financial sustainability and taxes”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Graham Simpson

There is a gap between what you receive and what you spend, and it is getting bigger. That cannot continue, can it?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Graham Simpson

So, there are still more than 400, even though everyone seems to accept that that is too high a number.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Graham Simpson

Or maybe you do not accept that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Graham Simpson

I am going to ask about travel, but I want first to pick up on something else that Mr Hogg said in relation to cards. I do not know, and I do not think that the committee knew, that a single contractor had been awarded jobs amounting to £60,000 to £70,000, which was in breach of policy. Those jobs were not put out to tender. There is a reference to that in the Auditor General’s report, but it does not say that only one contractor was awarded the work. That was news to me. What field was the contractor in and what were they contracted to do?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Graham Simpson

So, they were essentially hired to do marketing, whereas you could have put the work out to the market and potentially found someone else.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Graham Simpson

Ms Brown, I want to go back to the start. The convener was exploring your work when you first started and the things that you uncovered, including purchasing cards, travel expenses, data protection failures and a big alcohol bill from a leaving do. What was the board’s response to your finding out about those things?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Graham Simpson

Did anyone ask you to stop?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Graham Simpson

Was there any kind of pressure put on you to stop?