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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 22 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Graham Simpson

Okay.

In closing, I want to ask you about something else. There was a leaving do, with the people who attended essentially shamed into paying back the booze bill that had been run up at taxpayers’ expense. Do you know who the leaving do was for and where it took place?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Graham Simpson

Sorry—it was only repaid after a review, though.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Graham Simpson

So it was at the university.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Graham Simpson

You are absolutely right—it is a cultural issue. It is the same culture that we discovered at WICS; it appears to have existed in this case, too. Do you think that that has now stopped?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Graham Simpson

Is it the funicular that you think should be independent?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Graham Simpson

So, what do you think should be an independent company?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Graham Simpson

If anyone else wants to come in, albeit that it is good that Mr Kempe is leading—

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Graham Simpson

Somebody else will ask about the future, so I will not trample on their toes. I will stick to governance. You have spoken about your concerns over the layered governance arrangements. There are programme boards, project boards, key performance indicators, assurance reports and improved outcomes. Does that need to be streamlined?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Graham Simpson

Yes, the committee is used to hearing about consultants on big fees.

Have you any thoughts on how governance arrangements could be improved?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Graham Simpson

I want to follow up on some of that. There has been mention of stories appearing in the press. Sometimes stories can appear in the press because they have been deliberately leaked to the press. Was that the case here?