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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Graham Simpson

How many people are you planning to lose?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Graham Simpson

But you could be looking at redundancies.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Graham Simpson

Would that involve paying people off?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Graham Simpson

Has anybody written to you about it? Yes, let us put it that way.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Graham Simpson

That is fair enough, convener. I will move on.

Mr Brannen, you have said that the international work is on pause at the moment. How long is it on pause for?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Graham Simpson

That does sound a lot.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Graham Simpson

Scottish Water is about to whack up our bills by nearly 10 per cent, while paying bonuses to executives.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Graham Simpson

Okay. He also said that he felt “consistent” and “considerable” pressure to pursue international revenue.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Graham Simpson

Okay. Now, I mentioned Ms Ashford and I am not going to go into her case but I understand that she is no longer with the business. I am not asking about the details but am I right that she is not with the business any more?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Graham Simpson

That is fine. I am not going to ask you about it.

In these evidence sessions—by the way, I hope that this is our last session with you, and you probably think the same—we have heard about various instances of what I might describe as lavish spending. At the last meeting we asked about the money paid to the KC who was on a retainer. We had a figure of travel and accommodation costs in 2023-24 for this KC of £1,441—it does not sound like a big number, but we asked for a breakdown. We received a breakdown of that from the Auditor General, which was very helpful. Of that, £543 was for two nights’ accommodation in Edinburgh in July 2023—that does sound like a lot—and £384 was for return flights from London to Edinburgh, also in July and for the same trip. I would query that. That is a lot. He obviously did not fly on a budget airline or take the train, which would have been cheaper. There is £514 for a meal in London in October 2023 at a restaurant called Smith & Wollensky—the Auditor General has put “Woltensky”—which seems to be a rather high-end steakhouse; that is £541 for three people, which is £177 each. In a previous meeting, I read out a menu with prices. I am not going to do that now, but I have checked the menu and it would be very easy to rack up such a bill at that restaurant. The question we have asked repeatedly is: is this sort of expenditure is appropriate?