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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 January 2026
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Before I speak about the police—I will speak to Derek Frew about that, obviously—I want to go back to something that Dr Williams said. I raised the difficulty that people face in getting to see a GP in our evidence session last week. It has become much more difficult. You almost have to get past the receptionist, whereas before, you could phone up, ask for an appointment and be given one. Now people have to explain what is wrong with them to somebody who is not a GP. I do not know whether you agree with me, but that must put people off, particularly people with mental health issues. They may not want to discuss it, so people will be put off and we will miss people. What do you think about that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Graham Simpson

We could spend ages on that subject, but I will move on.

I want to chat to Derek Frew about the police’s involvement in mental health cases, because that has been a big concern of mine for a while now, having spoken to police in my patch. Both the convener and I represent Central Scotland, which includes Lanarkshire. When I speak to the police there—I think that, nationwide, other police say the same—they tell me that the amount of time that officers spend dealing with mental health cases can be very great. The figure that I was given locally was that 80 per cent of cases involve mental health issues, which I found astonishing.

I have also heard locally that there have been incidents where entire shifts of officers have had to sit with people in accident and emergency and so have been unable to deal with other cases. That seems to me to be a ludicrous situation and not a good use of resources. I ask you to comment on that initially, then we will move on.

Meeting of the Parliament

Clyde and Hebrides Ferry Service

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Graham Simpson

I thank the minister for advance sight of her statement.

Islanders who were hoping for some clarity on how ferries will be run, by whom and for how long, will be bewildered by what has just been said. Scotland’s ferry system is not working, our ageing ferries are unreliable, and the procurement and confused governance system is not fit for purpose.

The minister said that the status quo is not an option. I agree, but it is difficult to see how anything that has been announced today is anything but the status quo. Perhaps the minister can explain how it is. Far from announcing a new model that would give hope to islanders, the minister has kicked the can down the road. She said that she wants to explore a direct award to CalMac. With the current contract fast running out, maybe she feels that that is the only route left. How long does she want the next contract to run for? She did not say. If a direct award is not allowed, how quickly can a new tender process be completed?

The minister has previously said that she believes that the tripartite structure should change, so why has she not made a decision on a new arrangement? Does she not recognise that any such change should go hand in hand with a new contract award?

Meeting of the Parliament

General Question Time

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Graham Simpson

The “Independent Review of Audiology Services in Scotland”, which I assume is what the minister was referring to, noted:

“there are many areas ripe for improvement, and there is a huge appetite for change.”

It found

“multiple, systemic problems within audiology services in NHS Scotland.”

Will the minister set out a timeline for such improvement?

Meeting of the Parliament

General Question Time

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Graham Simpson

To ask the Scottish Government what plans it has to carry out its commitment to put community audiology services on a par with free community eye care services. (S6O-02738)

Meeting of the Parliament

First Minister’s Question Time

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Graham Simpson

I can tell the First Minister that at least 150 motorists are being wrongly issued fines every month for driving through Glasgow’s low-emission zone, and that Glasgow City Council says that it does not know what to do with the colossal sums—£0.5 million so far—that it is raising. Should it not have sorted that out before introducing this botched scheme?

Meeting of the Parliament

Ferguson Marine

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Many people would have been hoping for good news about the future of the yard. Workers will be watching this and feeling a sense of despair.

A cross-party group of MSPs wrote to the cabinet secretary on 7 September saying that investment in a new plating line is essential if the yard is to become competitive. David Tydeman asked for tens of millions of pounds for that—perhaps the cabinet secretary can say what the exact figure is—and he has been clear that a decision is time critical, but the cabinet secretary has said today that he cannot proceed. He talks about securing a future based on a promising order book, but there will be no such order book without that investment.

The cabinet secretary also talks about needing to see a revised business plan. Will he tell us what is lacking from the one that is before him? Does he genuinely think that the yard has a future without the further time-critical investment that has been asked for? It certainly does not feel that way.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Graham Simpson

What questions did you ask? If you ask, “Do you get stressed about things?”, most people will say yes. It depends on what you ask and how you phrase a question.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Graham Simpson

I am glad that you have injected some positivity. I know that you have to shoot off, so I will let you go, but thanks for that—I appreciate it.

I will put my next question just to Jo Anderson, because we are up against the clock. You mentioned outcomes, and the report states:

“The Scottish Government does not measure the quality of services or outcomes for people receiving mental healthcare.”

That seems to me to be a huge oversight. If you accept that the situation should be rectified, how should it be rectified, and what kind of things should we measure?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Graham Simpson

That is possibly a question for the Scottish Government, and we will have it in at some point.

I have a separate question about something that arises in the report. This is not necessarily a question for Jo Anderson—I am just looking at you because you are in the room, but it could be for anyone. The report says that spending on medicines to deal with mental health has gone down, because the cost of drugs has gone down, but that the number of items being dispensed has gone up. Does anyone have a view on whether it is appropriate that we are prescribing more and more drugs? Are there better ways of dealing with mental health issues? Is it too easy to prescribe drugs?

I see someone nodding, and I think that it is Simon Porter, so he might want to come in on that.