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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 January 2026
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Meeting of the Parliament

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Graham Simpson

What that shows is that no one pays any attention to what the First Minister wants. Today, which is the sixth anniversary of the fake launch of the Glen Sannox, we should be clear that nobody at the yard should be getting a bonus.

In April, Humza Yousaf said:

“There should not be bonuses”—[Official Report, 27 April 2023; c 12.]

paid—but there were. Audit Scotland said:

“While Scottish Government approval was sought, FMPG did not have explicit approval prior to payment.”

Who sanctioned the latest bonuses? Why is David Tydeman in line for any more?

Meeting of the Parliament

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Graham Simpson

I am not sure that we found out anything from that.

It could possibly be argued at a stretch that Mr Tydeman should get some credit if he turns the yard into a viable business. However, we have learned this week that it has stopped work on a project for the Royal Navy because the Scottish Government—Neil Gray—refused the request for £25 million of investment for a new plating line, burning tables and better computer software. How much extra is the Government prepared to invest in the yard in order to turn it around?

Meeting of the Parliament

Topical Question Time

Meeting date: 21 November 2023

Graham Simpson

To ask the Scottish Government what its response is to reports that the chief executive of Ferguson Marine is still entitled to a bonus despite the First Minister saying that he thought the practice should end. (S6T-01642)

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Yes?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Graham Simpson

It is, and it is good to know that other people want to come in on this important question.

I was about to say that it is encouraging to hear what Derek Frew said about the project in Forth Valley—I would like to know a little bit more about that—and the discussion that is coming up on 22 November. It is great that we are examining the issue. It would be good if we could get to a system whereby, even if police are called out, they can contact somebody else who can take on the case.

Convener, I do not know who you want to bring in.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Graham Simpson

Oh, do they?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Graham Simpson

I am sure that officers on the ground will tell you—as they will tell any of us—that the police are risk averse. That is not a criticism, by the way; it is just the reality.

You mentioned the situation down south. Ultimately, the solution will come down to finding the best way of dealing with people who have mental health problems and who need help. The question is: are the police the best people to do that? The answer is sometimes yes, but it is often no. That has been examined down south. The police there have a system called the right care, right person approach. Humberside Police took that up and it believes that, on average, 1,400 officer hours every month have been saved by adopting that different approach. If it was applied across the whole of England, it could save up to 1 million police hours a year. That shows that it is a good thing from a resources point of view to deal with things differently.

We should not completely rule out what is being done in England. We should look at whether we can learn from it, because we do not want Police Scotland to be tied up dealing with cases that are not its job.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Graham Simpson

That is—

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Graham Simpson

That has all been really useful, and I thank everyone for contributing.

I should say that my understanding of the Metropolitan Police system is that they respond to 999 mental health calls only where there is an immediate threat to life. I am not sure how someone is meant to judge that over the phone; it seems to me to be a rather blunt system. Perhaps we can improve the way in which we deal with things.

Convener, I do not know whether I have time to ask the witnesses about the model that is used in Trieste. I do not know whether you want me to do so.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 16 November 2023

Graham Simpson

It is mentioned in the report that, in Trieste, Italy, they have set up what is essentially a new way of dealing with mental health. The system operates through a network of mental health centres that operate 24 hours a day. People do not need an appointment—they can just walk in. It has not only improved the way in which mental health is dealt with in that area; it is also cheaper than what was there before. That is not why they do it—it has just ended up that way.

You do not have to comment if you have not read that section of the report or if you do not know about the model, but if you have read it and you have any views on it, we would be keen to hear them.