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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 May 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

National Strategy for Economic Transformation

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Graham Simpson

Last week, we had the chief entrepreneurial adviser to the Scottish Government, Mark Logan, in front of us. I raised the issue of his rather large salary—£200,000 a year for working two days a week—and he mounted what I would describe as the L’Oréal defence: “Because I’m worth it.”

How would you assess whether or not he is worth it? What sort of progress are you looking for from Mr Logan? How will his role be measured and assessed?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

National Strategy for Economic Transformation

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Graham Simpson

Let me put it this way: if this committee is looking at that particular role, what kinds of things should we be looking to Mr Logan to deliver?

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Economy and Fair Work Committee

National Strategy for Economic Transformation

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Graham Simpson

Aside from the £200,000 that I mentioned, which is paid to a company, has Mr Logan been given any other resources to fulfil the role?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Graham Simpson

I want to follow up on that last question. I am a little confused by your answer. Is there going to be a women’s business centre or not?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Graham Simpson

That is the nature of investment—some will work, but some will not. I am not picking on that particular company; I just happened to look at it and it struck me that it might not be particularly Scottish. I appreciate that you want a return from our investment, for Scotland. I am happy to leave it there.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

National Strategy for Economic Transformation

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Graham Simpson

I have one final question. Last week, I asked Mr Logan about his involvement with the company that I just mentioned, TravelNest. He is still listed as a director of that company, although he told us that he had pulled back.

Maybe he has pulled back, but it struck me that, not just for him but for anyone in a similar role with Government, whether they are paid or not, we should have clarity on their business interests, either as directors or regarding whether they hold shares in particular companies. Would you agree with that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Graham Simpson

I have a question about the Scottish National Investment Bank, because it is also receiving a real-terms increase in funding. What is that based on? Are you expecting the bank to deliver anything in particular? Has it come forward with particular projects that have whetted your appetite and prompted you to give it that extra funding?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Graham Simpson

You have decided to give the bank a real-terms increase. What are you expecting in return for that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Budget 2023-24

Meeting date: 18 January 2023

Graham Simpson

Can you or your officials tell us how investments are monitored? I have looked at one company that the bank has invested in, called TravelNest. It was awarded £5.5 million last year. The company helps property owners to advertise their holiday rentals on sites such as Airbnb.com, Booking.com and others. It struck me that such companies might be able to fund that themselves. I looked TravelNest up on the Companies House website: it appears to have an address in London rather than in Scotland. How is that monitored?

Meeting of the Parliament

Caledonian Sleeper Service

Meeting date: 12 January 2023

Graham Simpson

I, too, thank Richard Leonard for securing the debate, not least because it is always good fun to hear him speak and wind the clock back several decades. That aside, this is an important topic to debate—because it is a debate and we are not all going to agree. It is also an opportunity to hear from the minister, as we have yet to discover what she intends to do about the sleeper service.

We need to know that, because it is an important and iconic service. Six mornings a week, a little piece of Scotland rolls into London, full of people who are ready to start their day. The background to the debate was the announcement last year by the Scottish Government that the sleeper contract with Serco would be terminated halfway through this June. That was after the company wanted to discuss finances in the wake of the pandemic, so it seemed a very sudden decision.

When ScotRail became NatRail on April fools’ day last year, with the obligatory plaque unveiling by the First Minister, it followed years of negative publicity for Abellio. However, that is not the background here. Since Serco started running the sleeper service, it has invested in new fleet—there have been 75 new carriages in less than four years. Revenue was falling when the contract was awarded but, since then, Serco has grown revenue by 48 per cent, with 2022, incredibly, being its best-ever year. This coming year looks set to be even better.

Customers must like what Serco does—it has scored its highest-ever customer satisfaction scores, with full trains. Employee satisfaction is also up, despite what the National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers might say. Against that background, it seems strange for even Richard Leonard to be arguing for change, although for him, as he confirmed, it is ideological.

Serco is clearly doing something right. I have not yet travelled on the sleeper, but I hope to do so soon on a trip to London, because on a one-way trip, it offers great value for money when compared with other options.

There are a range of ways to travel on the sleeper: passengers can just take a seat, or there is a choice of cabin options, too. There is lots of Scottish produce on board—even the mattresses are from Aberdeen.

The minister has to make up her mind, and she has three options: the sleeper service could rejoin ScotRail; she could bring in an operator of last resort; or she could offer a direct contract award, which might be the best option in terms of value for money. I have spoken to Serco and I hope that the minister will do so, too. It is keen to discuss a direct contract award, which would mean ministers having complete control of the contract. That must surely appeal to the Government. Last month, Jenny Gilruth said that she was assessing that option. Has she now done so?

A cloud of uncertainty hangs over the sleeper service, which is unfair to staff. I have outlined some of the options for the minister. She needs to say what she intends to do and why, and she should set out the business case for that decision. How would taking the service off Serco help passengers and the taxpayer? With the current contract ending in June, we are running out of track.

The Government never said why taking ownership of ScotRail would be better and it never had a plan for making it so. I hope that the minister does not repeat that mistake with the iconic Caledonian sleeper.

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