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Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Graham Simpson
When will you do that?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Graham Simpson
The report says that front-line police officers in England and Wales use mobile fingerprint technology that allows them to
“use their smartphones to identify people in less than a minute”,
which saves police time and resources. That sounds like a good thing.
The report also notes that, at the United Kingdom level, the Home Office has a biometrics strategy and has provided funding for biometrics projects, including the creation of a new national centre for artificial intelligence for England and Wales, 50 live facial recognition vans and a project to speed up fingerprint processing. Mr Rennick, Dr Plastow said:
“By contrast, the Scottish government does not have a biometrics strategy for Scotland and accordingly there is no multi-year capital allocation to Police Scotland or the Scottish Police Authority”—
Mr Hay—
“to support a devolved vision where enhanced biometric capabilities could improve community safety in Scotland. Having such a strategy for Scotland would seem a sensible approach”.
It would seem a sensible approach, would it not?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Graham Simpson
I have taken up quite a bit of time, but I just want to ask about one more area. Again, it relates to mental health, but the mental health of the people who you are dealing with. The committee had an inquiry into adult mental health in 2023, and on 16 November of that year, we had Chief Superintendent Derek Frew in front of us. I do not know whether he is still with the police—
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Graham Simpson
So he has retired. Anyway, he was in front of us and had been tasked with dealing with these issues. I was recounting to him that in Lanarkshire, where I live, entire shifts of officers sometimes had to sit with people in accident and emergency and therefore could not deal with other cases—it was quite astonishing, really. We then discussed the approach taken by some forces in England, and I mentioned Humberside Police; it had put in place what was called the right care, right person system, which accepts that the police are not always the best people to deal with those suffering with mental health issues. At that point, Chief Superintendent Frew told me:
“I hope that people will be supportive of the fact that Police Scotland is not taking the position that forces down south have adopted, where certain areas have said, ‘We are stepping back and we’re not going to do that.’”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 16 November 2023; c 11.]
Comments from you, chief constable, that I read recently seem to suggest that you have had a change of view, perhaps, because the numbers are so great. I just want you to set out what your current thinking is.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Graham Simpson
You cannot wash your hands of it, Mr McGillivray. That is just not acceptable. Dr Plastow’s criticism is that we do not even have a biometrics strategy, and we do not. Surely we should have one, irrespective of whether we have one police force or 43—that is irrelevant. There needs to be a strategy.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Graham Simpson
Do you have a view on that, chief constable?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Graham Simpson
Thanks, convener. I also used to live in the north-east of England and I have attended Newcastle v Sunderland matches. I have also attended many old firm games as a supporter, but I have never witnessed anything like what we saw on Sunday. It was absolutely appalling. I just could not believe what I was seeing.
I asked a question in Parliament yesterday about the silence of both clubs, which you touched on. Have you spoken to either club yet? Have they said anything publicly? I have not seen them say anything.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Graham Simpson
In that case, it did not look as though there were turnstiles. It must have been a door that was open or a gate.
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Graham Simpson
So why is it not taking place?
Public Audit Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Graham Simpson
At most games, you do not need a lot of police officers, I would have thought. However, you definitely need far more at a Celtic-Rangers game. Does it come down to money and how much the clubs are prepared to pay for policing inside the ground?