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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 February 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Graham Simpson

Okay. There are a couple of letters that you have sent in that I want to ask about. First, there is the letter that you sent to the Auditor General on 4 September last year. There were some comments in there directed at the Auditor General and we have not really seen comments like that directed at the Auditor General before. Have you got the letter?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Graham Simpson

Okay. If we look at what actually appeared in the final draft, we see the Auditor General saying that

“the Scottish Government and COSLA, with support from The Promise Scotland, should … work together to identify where resources need to be targeted to deliver The Promise”.

That is basically the same thing, in different words.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Graham Simpson

It is just that you used the phrase:

“the report could derail … progress”.

The report is essentially an analysis of where we are, how the Promise is going and whether we are on track. It is far more detailed than that, but, in summary, that is what it is and that is what the Auditor General does. That process in itself is hardly going to derail anything, is it? It is surely more of a help than a hindrance.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Graham Simpson

Okay. There is a section in your letter, on the second page, about the clearance draft, which you were sent. It says:

“As it stands, the lead recommendation in the clearance draft creates a significant and entirely unnecessary risk to children, families and care experienced adults.”

Can you explain why you said that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Graham Simpson

Well, it is about carrying out an appraisal. An appraisal is about seeing where you are, essentially, and that is what the Auditor General is saying there. I fail to see how doing that piece of work, however you word it, can put children, families and care-experienced adults at risk. Surely, it is something that you should be doing on an on-going basis.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Graham Simpson

Surely an appraisal assesses where you are at that point in time. You could conclude that you are not on track, but that does not mean that you stop.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Graham Simpson

It was probably worth a try.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Graham Simpson

Okay. Thank you.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Graham Simpson

Just for transparency, Fiona, I note that we met at the event on Monday at the University of Glasgow that you mentioned; you introduced yourself to me, which was good of you. I think that you possibly did the same with the deputy convener.

Do you think that the Promise will be met?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Improving care experience: Delivering The Promise”

Meeting date: 21 January 2026

Graham Simpson

But it is challenging.