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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Graham Simpson
Okay. I want to go back to the Harvard trip, Mr Rathjen. Have I pronounced your name correctly?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Graham Simpson
Have you got rid of those corporate credit cards? You said that they were “frozen”. Does that mean that you are getting rid of them?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Graham Simpson
One problem with the system is that people were able to go out and spend money and were not asked to provide receipts. For example, we heard that the former chief executive went for a meal with a water industry person from New Zealand in October 2022 at the Champany Inn near Linlithgow, and that the total cost for that meal for two was £402.41. I have been struggling to work out how you could arrive at such a figure for two people. Before I get into it, do you know what was eaten or consumed that night?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Graham Simpson
Yes. I have been looking at the menu at that fine establishment, and if you picked the most expensive item for starter, main course and dessert, you would get cold-smoked salmon at £12.95 a head, then move on to the chateaubriand, which is £16 per 100g, so if you got the minimum weight of 800g, that would be £128 for two people, then you would move on to a cheese course at £14.50 each. That all adds up to £202.90 for food, so where has the rest of the expenditure come from? Somebody should have queried the bill.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Graham Simpson
You could have challenged it. You could have pushed back and said that the decision was inappropriate and cost far too much money. Part of the approach, which was revealed in another email to you, was that the chief operating officer who went to Harvard identified Harvard as her preferred option. She got to pick where she went. That is part of the approach that you have just said is okay, but it is not okay, is it?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Graham Simpson
Mr Rathjen, you accept that you should have pushed back. You should have said, “This was unacceptable,” but you did not. That is fine: you admit that there was an error. To me, that is part of the culture that existed at the time: nobody was saying, “This is wrong.” Do you accept that point?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Graham Simpson
“A few people”? How many?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Graham Simpson
Two or three people.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Graham Simpson
I have one final question, convener. I know that I have had quite a long time.
Are you still sending people off to New Zealand? If so, are they flying economy or are they going business class or first class? What did they do before?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2024
Graham Simpson
Business class?