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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Graham Simpson
It is reliant, of course, on finding a private sector partner who actually wants to take part.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Graham Simpson
No, I am not talking about retendering contracts. I am just trying to get clear in my mind what the difference in staffing cost is between what you have being paying and what you will be paying.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Graham Simpson
Mr Rennick, what will be the cost of bringing the Police Scotland College in East Kilbride back into the public sector?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Graham Simpson
Are we talking millions?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Graham Simpson
Okay. I think this question applies to all the contracts that are due to end and that have a payback attached to them. What happens if there is no agreement? If the public sector just says, “That is far too much. We cannot afford it. Go away”?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Graham Simpson
I am afraid that that is very simplistic. Let us take the Police College in East Kilbride as an example. Police Scotland is up against it, financially—I mean, it cannot even renew police stations or police cars. If Police Scotland is expected to pay millions of pounds at the end of that contract, there is surely a risk that it will not be able to afford that final payment. So, what happens in that case?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Graham Simpson
That is the risk, is it not, with these contracts? It all sounds good right at the start, but we get to the end and suddenly the financial situation is different. As I say, Police Scotland is not awash with cash, so we could get to a position in 2026-27 where it says, “We cannot afford the payment. We are going to have to hand this asset back.”
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Graham Simpson
Millions of pounds?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Graham Simpson
Mr Reekie, do you know the answer?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 6 June 2024
Graham Simpson
Convener, I was just looking at the BBC article that you referred to, with the list of 11 projects that are due to end and which would require a payment to be made. Six of those are in the health area, including a number of hospitals. We do not have the people with the relevant expertise here today, but I am just putting on the record that I think it would be worth the committee delving into those contracts. One of the hospitals—University hospital Wishaw—is in the region that we both represent, but there are others that we could look at. It might be worth our doing further work on that, but, as I do not expect the witnesses who are before us today to answer questions in that regard, I will leave it there.