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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 March 2025
Graham Simpson
You accept, therefore, the potential risk that bringing in the levy could mean a loss of trade, if you like, for parts of Scotland.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 March 2025
Graham Simpson
Will you give us a bit more detail on the invest to save fund that you mentioned?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 March 2025
Graham Simpson
Yes—thanks a lot, convener. Permanent secretary, you have mentioned child poverty a few times. I draw your attention to a correction that the First Minister had to make to an answer that he gave to the Parliament on 27 February, on the Scottish child payment. In his original answer, he said:
“the Scottish child payment ... is helping to lift hundreds of thousands of children out of poverty.”—[Official Report, 27 February 2025; c 18.]
In his correction, he says that it is
“estimated”
to be
“helping to keep 100,000 children out of relative poverty”.—[Official Report, 27 February 2025; c 121.]
That is an estimate, and the term has gone from “poverty” to “relative poverty”. Is it fair to say that we do not actually know how many children have been helped?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 March 2025
Graham Simpson
Thank you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 February 2025
Graham Simpson
My conclusion from that answer is that the 20 per cent is just a made-up figure. As the Auditor General said, it could have been anything—it could have been 10 per cent, 15 per cent or even 30 per cent. It does not seem to be based on anything, and certainly not on anything realistic.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 February 2025
Graham Simpson
Absolutely. It is really stretching.
I will quote from paragraph 14 of your report, but I will convert the figures from kilometres to miles. I was disappointed that, in your report, you fell into the Scottish Government trap of using kilometres and not miles. If I were to ask you how far it is from Edinburgh to Glasgow, you would not give me the distance in kilometres. Just bear with me—I am going to use real money.
The report says:
“To achieve the target, car traffic levels will need to decrease by”
4.5 billion miles to 18 billion miles
“compared to a 2019 baseline. The last time car traffic levels were at this level was in 1994.”
You also say:
“Transport Scotland estimates that to achieve a 20 per cent reduction in car”
miles
“by 2030, public transport capacity would need to increase by 222 per cent.”
None of that is achievable and it never was. Based on that, and based on the lack of a plan, do you think that the Government should just be honest and say that it has ditched the target?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 February 2025
Graham Simpson
That is fine—I am happy to leave it there.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 February 2025
Graham Simpson
Where do you think that the target came from? Where do you think that we got the figure of 20 per cent from?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 February 2025
Graham Simpson
I am hearing some audio feedback, which Mr Bell got as well. I wonder whether that can be sorted.
I did not see anything in the consultation that was launched this week that said that the Government is dropping its target—did you?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 26 February 2025
Graham Simpson
Okay. I am not sure whether you agree with me there. I just think that the Government ought to be honest about it and say, “We’re never going to achieve this,” and either drop the target or change it.