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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 March 2025
Graham Simpson
But we do not have an accurate figure.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 March 2025
Graham Simpson
If we look at pay deals, which are covered from paragraph 38 onwards of the Auditor General’s report and in exhibit 5, we see that some of them are frankly unsustainable. How will you be able to fund those in future years?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 March 2025
Graham Simpson
What kinds of bids are coming in?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 March 2025
Graham Simpson
Okay. The Auditor General told us a bit more about how the Welsh Government undertakes forecasting and reporting at the evidence session that we had in December, and we were told that it
“published a strategic integrated impact assessment that looked at the impact that reductions in spending might have on different groups.”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 5 December 2024; c 7.]
Is that something that you are looking to copy or adapt in some way?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 March 2025
Graham Simpson
It might be the right objective, but the point that the report makes is that hitting that objective will take a lot more money than is likely to be there. That is the nub of it, is it not?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 March 2025
Graham Simpson
To bring all that together, if we accept that there are funding gaps—for social security, the figure is not too distant from being a very big funding gap, and we have spoken about pay deals—and if the Scottish Government is to make such policy choices, which I accept are not yours but those of ministers, it will have to look at making savings or cuts in other areas, will it not?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 March 2025
Graham Simpson
Thank you.
I am now going to ask you about ScotWind; other members might have questions about it, too. I do not know whether you have seen the letter that the Auditor General wrote to the committee on 18 December, but I will quote from it. He says:
“It is not clear from our papers how the ScotWind monies have been used in each of these financial years and whether this is consistent with the earlier intentions, expressed throughout 2022, for this money to be invested in addressing the climate and biodiversity crises.”
What is your response to that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 March 2025
Graham Simpson
It would be useful if you could give us that written consolidation.
It is fair to say that some of the ScotWind money went to fund pay deals. Is that correct?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 March 2025
Graham Simpson
I am going to ask you about net zero next. I will read paragraph 18 of the Auditor General’s report to you:
“The Scottish Government’s target of achieving net zero by 2045 is also placing pressure on its finances, and will continue to do so ... The Scottish Fiscal Commission estimates that, in order to meet its climate objectives, the Scottish Government will need to invest an average of £1.14 billion of additional capital spending annually until 2049/50. However, the Scottish Fiscal Commission has also forecast that the capital funding that the Scottish Government receives will have fallen by 20 per cent in real terms by 2028/29. This will place significant pressure on other areas of capital spending.”
Do you accept that analysis?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 5 March 2025
Graham Simpson
It seems a pretty obvious approach, though, does it not? If you are going to reduce spending, you might as well look at the impact of doing so. I am surprised that it has not been done before.