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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Graham Simpson

I am not sure that I am any clearer.

Public Audit Committee

“Decarbonising heat in homes”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Graham Simpson

Auditor General, I have been reflecting on everything that has been said so far, and what strikes me is that we have very ambitious fuel poverty targets, as you have said. I wonder whether there is a bit of contradiction between having those targets, which Parliament set, and wanting to decarbonise. Right now, if you were to think of getting rid of your gas boiler, there is a very good chance that you could end up with having to install a very expensive heating system, and something that costs far more to run. Is there a risk that people would be plunged into fuel poverty if they were to make the move now?

Public Audit Committee

“Decarbonising heat in homes”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Graham Simpson

I will make a final observation. If we are talking only about housing, I think that we can deal with new housing relatively easily, and the Government is looking at improving the standards of such housing. I was at an event last night about passive housing. Serious consideration is being given to introducing new building standards so that new homes meet those very high energy efficiency standards, and that could deal with the fuel poverty issue almost overnight, which would be very positive. However, given that the challenge is the existing housing, do you agree that that is probably where the money has to go?

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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Graham Simpson

Yes. On the whole aspect of culture.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Graham Simpson

From what you have just said, when you came in, you could see problems that needed to be fixed.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Graham Simpson

I have a few questions and will start with the current financial position.

You very helpfully shared a paper with local MSPs. It was a finance report dated 30 January and said that the current forecast deficit was then estimated at £10.3 million. The paper also said:

“It is highly unlikely that breakeven can be achieved without additional funding from the Scottish Government and/or a significant improvement in the Acute Services Division financial performance between now and the end of the year.”

Has there been any improvement since that paper was produced?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Graham Simpson

You think that that will help you.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Graham Simpson

Just speak in English, Mr Murray.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Graham Simpson

I am happy to leave it there.

Public Audit Committee

“Decarbonising heat in homes”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Graham Simpson

I am simplifying this, but, in essence, people end up in fuel poverty because the cost of heating their home is too much for them. You rightly say that if people move to a fully electric system, that will, at present, cost far more than gas. That is correct, is it not? That balance has to change.