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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Willie Coffey

I understand.

I have just one final question. We are talking about a £1 billion programme, the principal aims of which are to reduce child poverty and help support economic transformation. In your opening remarks, Neil, you reminded us that the programme has been running for two years now and that all 32 councils are delivering the 1,140 hours. That brings me back to the data issue again. In the Government’s view, how successful is the programme at the moment? I know that the Auditor General will be looking at it, but with two years’ worth of experience in service delivery, the response from parents and so on, can you give us the Government’s view of how well the programme’s principal aims have been met so far?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Willie Coffey

That was a long answer to my question.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Willie Coffey

What you are saying is that, at the moment, we do not have data that tells us whether we have managed to reduce child poverty. The programme has been running for two years, but we do not have any data that supports the principal aim behind the policy.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Willie Coffey

I want to return briefly to the data gathering issue. Every time the Public Audit Committee looks at a report by the Auditor General, there is always an issue with data gathering. That is the case every time. If you were a betting man, you could bet that his next report will include reference to the subject. Why is there a general issue with data gathering? Why do we continue to ask questions about data during the course of whatever work we do?

Is there any chance that we could think about defining a data gathering standard in advance of a piece of work being done so that, when that work gets under way, the participants—the people who deliver the service for us—have an idea of the range of data that is expected to be gathered? To my mind, that would assist the councils to achieve a consistency of approach in data gathering, which would help us to build up the national picture that Colin Beattie referred to. I feel that we do not do that in advance; if I am wrong, please correct me. Do you get a sense that that might be worth while doing? Should we look across the board at the types of data that we want to collect, define those and gather the information as we go so that, one day in the future, the Auditor General might not make that point about data gathering in one of his reports?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Willie Coffey

I want to nip back to the issue of infrastructure for a moment, if I may. It was raised earlier in the discussion with the convener, but my question is: how well are we set up to achieve our net zero targets with the existing infrastructure? I imagine that most early learning facilities might not be net zero compliant at the moment. Is the Government thinking about that issue and how we will achieve that aim?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Willie Coffey

It is good to get that on the record, as people have probably never heard of RAAC, and probably neither had we, until recently. However, we have all heard of and seen breeze block being used in construction, so it is good to know that it is a different material and that there are no concerns about it.

Another question arises from an issue that Ailsa Macfarlane touched on earlier. Why is there no requirement to record what a building is made of? Now that we suddenly find ourselves having to run around, inspecting and surveying, to figure out what is in buildings, the question must be: why was it never made a requirement in the industry—or wherever—to record what something was made of?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Willie Coffey

I am the MSP for the constituency of Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Willie Coffey

Okay.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Willie Coffey

I presume that the fire service would support having more knowledge about what is in a building before firefighters go in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Reinforced Autoclaved Aerated Concrete

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Willie Coffey

Is it permissible to build with RAAC today? It has not been banned.