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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 19 November 2025
Willie Coffey
Thanks for that. Dex Hunter-Torricke, how can we throw an ethical blanket around this whole thing? Is it impossible or is it yet still possible? If so, who should do it?
Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee
Meeting date: 18 November 2025
Willie Coffey
Yes, thanks, convener. I wonder if I could reverse the order of my two questions. I have one question on skills and workforce that I want to come to, but first I want to go back to the start to look at consumer participation in this great process.
I will start with Alistair Hill. Do you think that the community at large—consumers at large—are embracing this transition? I do not think that they are in the numbers that we need to see. As colleagues have mentioned, a number of things have to happen to crank it up and make it go faster. One relates to the price of electricity, which is four times the price of gas. If we do not solve that issue, we are going nowhere—we really have to solve that. Also, although the grant and assistance schemes are great, are they enough, in terms of the funding and financial models, to achieve the transition on their own? What are the witnesses’ views on that?
Neil, you mentioned that 87,000 properties need intervention and that that will cost £3 billion. Do we need to do much more to really kick-start things and get the acceleration that we all hope for? I have been hearing this conversation at the committee for a wee while now. I will start with Alistair.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
Yes. For many people, the value is the functionality of the thing. They are not really interested in how it is designed, how it comes together or how powerful it can be as a tool. They just want to be the end user of it. I do not know how representative that is.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
What I really want to talk about is ethics—it always creeps into the conversation; we get there eventually. How can ethics be embedded at the heart of the AI revolution? Can it or should it be? Perhaps it already is. Earlier, Heather Thomson said—I scribbled it down—that ethics should be embedded in all aspects of AI. How can that be done?
Mark Schaffer, you said in your opening remarks that corporations grabbed the whole agenda and ensconced themselves early on. They were not thinking about ethical standards. They were thinking about profit, control and influence and all the rest of it. Can we truly embed ethics into AI, or must we rely on, for example, governance or regulatory measures in order to throw some kind of protective blanket over it?
I would be pleased to hear your thoughts on how we do that. You started this, Heather, so you can go first. I add that I have never seen an ethical computer algorithm yet.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
Should it be more of a voluntary thing, with some sections of society deciding that they will engage in that way, or does there need to be an overarching framework that everyone should observe? You mentioned Grok earlier. Is there an ethical component to Grok?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
Okay. That is absolutely fascinating. Thank you.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
Steven Grier can have the last word.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
Will the pupils of the future have their own personalised AI bots that look after their individual educational development journeys?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
Good morning, everybody. This has been a fantastic conversation. I will start where Steven Grier ended a wee while ago, on the subject of computing. How to encourage and keep girls in science has perplexed everyone for many years, and we still do not know the answer. It seems that, when girls transition from primary to secondary school, they lose interest in science, and it is as though computing becomes akin to the oily rag. Mechanics, engineering, software engineering and computing seem to turn young girls off.
Last week, Sarah Ronald talked about her company, where younger women really excel at data analytics and like that side of computing science, whereas the younger guys like to be the coders and the programmers. I do not know how true that is in general, but that is her experience. Is there a magic wand for how to persuade more young women to stick with computing? I think that the idea of calling it “digital design” is fantastic.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Willie Coffey
This is just an observation, but I remember showing my daughter a smartphone years ago and saying, ”Wouldn’t you like to be able to programme and control these?” She said, “No”.