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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 4 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

Do you have a ballpark figure for that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 4 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

There have been a couple of times when more senior people were invited to give evidence, and they should have been there because they are the right people, but they have not been available. It might save your time, for instance, as you are obviously really busy. Thank you very much for that, because it is an issue for the Parliament going forward.

That is the main question that I had just now, convener; I might have some supplementaries to other folks’ questions later.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 4 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

I have a quick supplementary to Colin Beattie’s questions about PFI contracts. The Government has moved away from the use of such contracts, some of which could now be regarded as historical or legacy contracts. For example, the Wishaw hospital project that you talked about predates this Parliament, yet we are still paying for it every year. Do we have a handle on how much the NHS has to pay for PFI and public-private partnership contracts every year?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 4 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

That would be helpful, because then we would know the significant amount that the NHS has to spend. Colin Beattie’s questions showed how badly written some of those contracts were in terms of value for money for our NHS, although they are historic and predate this Parliament.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 4 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

As you know, I sit on the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and there are a few times when that committee has found it difficult to obtain witnesses from health boards. This is the Public Audit Committee, but the audit function is for the whole Parliament to undertake. The issue is not just with the NHS—other committees have had challenges in getting witnesses. However, you are here today, so I ask for some assurance that you can ensure that, in the next session of Parliament, board chief executives and chairs understand the importance of engaging with the committees of the Parliament. Audit and scrutiny are good for everyone, and we should be encouraging health boards to engage with the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, because that is helpful overall. I would like some assurance on that.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 4 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

It is more of a point of information related to Graham Simpson’s question on the national referral protocol. I did not do a Google search; I did a DuckDuckGo search and the information is there. All the conditions are listed and there is an app.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“NHS in Scotland 2025: Finance and performance”

Meeting date: 4 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

I understand where Graham Simpson is coming from. Obviously, he was not overly concerned about his allergic reaction, but other folk might have been, and their first instinct might have been to go to the GP. My assumption is that going to the GP would be far more expensive for the system overall, would put pressure on the GP and would prevent someone else from getting an appointment. Have you looked at the savings from pharmacy first and how much pressure it relieves in the system?

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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Sport and Physical Activity

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

I will pick up on the summer of sport, which Kim Atkinson mentioned. We have discussed the huge injection of funding into sport. Half of that significant amount of money is for the summer of sport, to ensure that there is a long-term legacy. Often, we wrongly think of legacy as being to do with the buildings, but, in fact, it is about the people. How can we ensure that that significant injection of funding has a legacy for the people?

It is important that, when we talk about the people, we go wider than kids and include older folk. Forbes Dunlop will be aware of the fantastic success of the swimming masters events. I want to give a shout-out to my sister, who, having got back into swimming, has just won six golds and a silver at the age of 60-whatever. How do we encourage folk of all ages to take advantage of the summer of sport to improve their access to sport and physical activity? I ask Forbes Dunlop to respond first, given that I mentioned swimming.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Sport and Physical Activity

Meeting date: 3 March 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

:Brilliant—thank you.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Reports: “The 2024/25 audit of NHS Ayrshire and Arran” and “The 2024/25 audit of NHS Grampian”

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

:I have a final question for NHS Grampian. On making public services more efficient, the Government is keen that we work together across public services. Are you looking to share more of the back-office work and salaries across the two local authorities and the health board? Are you working on getting better at that?