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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 February 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

You said that the transactions were being checked.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

I guess that that gives a little bit of assurance to the public on that point.

Do you want me to continue, convener?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

You suggested that there was not just one mistake at the start, but multiple mistakes and lots of opportunities to take a different path before more money was spent. However, we are where we are and we cannot change the past or unspend the money that has been spent. If there is one recommendation that the committee could make, what would you hope that we would come up with?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

Is that what everyone thinks?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

I wonder whether you would be prepared to go further and suggest that the leadership teams of all public bodies should, if they have a relevant interest, particularly a financial interest, declare it? I do not think that it is unusual to find people in such positions who have an interest, because that is how they have gained the skills or whatever it was that made them valuable for that leadership post. Is this an opportunity to send out a signal to public bodies across Scotland that, if their leadership teams have any interests, it is in their interests to declare that and be clear and transparent?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

You made a point about the policy on what expenditure should be for. The lack of control in relation to that would be a public concern. Purchases may have been made on the credit cards that were not appropriate and that could not have been justified by the organisation, but nobody has been checking what was being spent. I will be mindful of language here, but the public might think that there would be a risk of fraud in the use of the cards. Is there any indication of that being the case, or do we just not know, because there are no controls?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

So, there was at least a second person looking at them. They were not just going through.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of Historic Environment Scotland”

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

I will pass back to you.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

Thanks, convener. Unlike the other members of the committee, I did not manage to join the visit, as I had another committee to attend. However, I know the hill. I am not a skier, so it is the other activities in the area that I have done; as Gordon Bulloch said, there are lots of other things to do, which do not require you to go to the very top.

My question is about the alternatives and what future planning there has been. You argue in your report that the 2021 master plan is not a master plan in the planning sense. It would be good for the committee to hear what you think is missing from it. What should be there, and what could make it a useful long-term planning document?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 14 January 2026

Joe FitzPatrick

Just to be clear, would the long-term alternative to a funicular be chairlifts—which you can get skis, bikes and anything else on to—and not a gondola lift?