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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

You all had a legal responsibility.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Iain Wishart talked about how difficult things were, and I get it, but you were faced with calculations saying that there is such a big deficit. Not to put that down and create a budget that tries to reduce that deficit is incredible. Iain, you talked about having to consult. Surely that should have been started in 2022 when you started realising that there was a deficit, and I guess that that is when you should have been starting to prepare the budget in order to square it.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Convener, I do not think any of us has been suggesting that this is easy to do, but I think Mr Watson has articulated why a budget would have been so important.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Financial sustainability and taxes”

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

I will follow up on some of Colin Beattie’s questions, which covered some areas I would have liked to go into—that has saved me a bit of time.

Your report includes a lot of tables that are very clearly labelled as modelling. Those tables are often taken as expressing fact by others, but that is not the case. You mentioned exhibit 10, which is very clearly labelled

“modelled impact of behavioural change”.

However, we can look at some of the facts. Just yesterday or today, we received the figures for population increase in Scotland last year. Last year, the population of Scotland went up to 5.55 million—the highest figure ever—and most of the migration came from the rest of the UK. So, we are now seeing that, when folk look at the whole basket of changes in taxation and other life changes, the behavioural change is that, on balance, people are choosing to move to Scotland.

That is there in the population figures, but it is not reflected in the modelling that we are seeing from others. That is fine, because I guess that, sometimes, there has to be a cautious approach, but when would we see those figures coming through into what that population increase has meant in terms of more people living and working in Scotland and Scotland having a higher employment rate than the rest of the UK? We have a challenge in that London and the south-east are different from everywhere else—they are effectively overheated—so, when we compare Scotland with the rest of the UK, we are actually really comparing Scotland with that overheated part of the rest of the UK.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“The 2023/24 audit of UHI Perth”

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

It still sounds pretty incredible that you did not put something down on paper as an actual budget.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Non-surgical Procedures and Functions of Medical Reviewers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

This is a United Kingdom-wide issue, but it is being dealt with differently in Scotland and England, and the approach to regulation proposed in this bill is not the same as the approach being taken in England. Lynsey, what are your thoughts on the two approaches? Have we got it right here, or could we learn more from what is happening in England?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Non-surgical Procedures and Functions of Medical Reviewers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

That answer was helpful, Ms Wilson, because you have laid out the differences between the models in England and Scotland. We can discuss later whether the Scottish model is safer.

Moving on to Tina McCaffery, I note that you said that you represented practitioners across Scotland and the UK. Perhaps you can explain who exactly you represent, and then go on to talk about the impact of having different regulations in Scotland and in the rest of the UK.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Non-surgical Procedures and Functions of Medical Reviewers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Are you able to tell us what types of procedures you are concerned about that will not be regulated by the bill?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Non-surgical Procedures and Functions of Medical Reviewers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

That would be useful. I think that the committee thought that some of those procedures were covered by the bill, so it would be useful to know what you think is not covered.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Non-surgical Procedures and Functions of Medical Reviewers (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Joe FitzPatrick

Lesley, would you like to add anything else about the differences between the two systems?