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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Proposed Right to Food (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 5 October 2021

Joe FitzPatrick

That is great—thank you. The committee is aware that our role today is not to consider whether we agree with the proposal; it is to consider the statement of reasons. We have to be satisfied with two things before we agree to set aside the normal process that members follow in consulting before they lodge a bill proposal: first, that the previous consultation was robust; and secondly, that the previous consultation remains relevant.

Let me ask about the robustness of the consultation. First, I have seen a lot of stuff about percentages flying around, but the overall number of responses was quite low. Why was that? The number certainly seems low in comparison with other consultations, especially given that the issue seems relevant. Secondly, in your statement of reasons, you said that 225 organisations were contacted; will you give us a breakdown of those organisations?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 5 October 2021

Joe FitzPatrick

Would you be willing to come back in later, Maggie? It might be possible to for members to pick up on other points after other members have asked their questions.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 5 October 2021

Joe FitzPatrick

I feel that Fulton MacGregor might well press that area of questioning in our other evidence sessions.

I thank all three witnesses for taking the time to join us and for their really helpful evidence. We could have spent the whole afternoon chatting with you. There are a lot of issues to discuss, and the evidence from all three of you has been really complementary.

I suspend the meeting briefly for a changeover of witnesses.

11:26 Meeting suspended.  

11:32 On resuming—  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 5 October 2021

Joe FitzPatrick

Thanks very much, cabinet secretary. I think that committee members are content for now. We have other business to cover in private session. Thank you for making it through the session without having a coughing fit. You said that you would write to the committee with one or two pieces of information, so we look forward to receiving those and being kept up to date on the other matters that you talked about.

We will now move into private session.

12:09 Meeting continued in private until 12:48.  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Joe FitzPatrick

Thank you. Emma Congreve is next.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Joe FitzPatrick

To go back to a point that Angela O’Hagan made, the committee has written to other committees to make the point that a human rights approach is not just for this committee; we are asking all parliamentary committees to take such an approach in their budget scrutiny.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Joe FitzPatrick

There was a reference to Emma Congreve’s organisation, so I will bring her in.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Joe FitzPatrick

Brilliant.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Joe FitzPatrick

We will now hear from our second panel of witnesses. Rob Gowans is joining us remotely, and Fulton MacGregor is still with us remotely, too.

I welcome to the meeting Adam Stachura, head of policy and communications, Age Scotland; Jatin Haria, executive director, Coalition for Racial Equality and Rights; Eilidh Dickson, policy and parliamentary manager, Engender; and Rob Gowans, policy and public affairs manager, Health and Social Care Alliance.

I thank the witnesses for their written submissions, which are really helpful for our deliberations. I invite each of you to make a short opening statement, starting with Adam Stachura, please.

11:15  

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 28 September 2021

Joe FitzPatrick

Fulton MacGregor wants to come in on this subject before I bring in the other panellists.