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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
Joe FitzPatrick
Welcome to the sixth meeting in session 6 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. We have no apologies. We are joined remotely by Pam Gosal and Fulton MacGregor; Fulton will join us in person shortly.
Item 1 is a decision on whether to take items 4 and 5 in private. Item 4 is consideration of today’s evidence and item 5 is consideration of our work programme. Do members agree to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
Joe FitzPatrick
Item 2 is evidence on the proposed right to food (Scotland) bill. I welcome Rhoda Grant MSP and Nick Hawthorne, who is a senior assistant clerk in the Parliament’s non-Government bills unit.
I refer members to papers 1 and 2. We have correspondence from four individuals, who ask that the proposal be allowed to proceed to the next stage, and we have a letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Housing and Local Government, which sets out the Scottish Government’s position.
I invite Rhoda Grant to make brief opening remarks before we move to questions.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
Joe FitzPatrick
Two thirds of the bodies that were targeted did not respond. Do you want to comment on the fact that two thirds of the organisations that were highlighted as being particularly interested in such a proposal did not respond?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
Joe FitzPatrick
Thus far, it has been really important to hear from all three witnesses. With the coming questions, that might not be the case. I ask that members direct questions to a particular witness. That way, I hope to be able to get through all the themes we want to ask about.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
Joe FitzPatrick
On your first appearance at a committee, I thank you for your passion, in particular. The committee is keen to ensure that, as well as hearing from well-kent folk such as Alison Evison, we hear from new voices. Paul Bradley has been to committees before, but I thank him for his evidence, too.
We will now move to questions. The committee is on a bit of a journey; this is the first year in which an equalities committee has sought to look at the budget through a human rights lens. We are keen to ensure that this year is not the end of that and that we learn to do it better, going forward.
This question is for Paul Bradley and Alison Evison. Are the organisations that you represent managing to take a human rights approach and, if not, what more would they need in order to do that? I would like Nina Munday to tell us about the experience of her organisation with regard to whether the partners that it works with—the local authority and third sector bodies—are taking a human rights approach.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
Joe FitzPatrick
Thank you. On balance, that gives us three votes for satisfied and four votes for not satisfied with the statement of reasons. The committee is therefore not satisfied with—[Interruption.]
I am sorry—I have not voted. I, too, am not satisfied. However, there is a good piece of work to go ahead with, and the committee will have a particular interest in that area. I encourage Rhoda Grant to engage with the Government, but that is up to her. If she sees fit, she could consult further and bring back another proposal. That would be within the rules.
However, as my vote is for not satisfied, so there are four votes for not satisfied and three for satisfied. The committee is therefore not satisfied with the statement of reasons.
That concludes consideration of this item. I thank Rhoda Grant and Nick Hawthorne for attending.
10:14 Meeting suspended.Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
Joe FitzPatrick
Under the next agenda item, we will take evidence as part of our pre-budget scrutiny. We will hear from two panels of witnesses. I welcome our first witnesses. I give a virtual welcome to Councillor Alison Evison, the president of the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, and I welcome, in person, Nina Munday, the chief executive of the Fife Centre for Equalities and Paul Bradley from the policy and public affairs team at the Scottish Council for Voluntary Organisations.
I refer members to papers 3 and 4. I thank all the witnesses for their helpful written submissions. I invite each witness to make a short opening statement.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
Joe FitzPatrick
Yes, you can make a comment prior to voting.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
Joe FitzPatrick
Thank you. Maggie Chapman is next.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 October 2021
Joe FitzPatrick
Thank you for the reference to open government. That is one of the areas on which I have worked previously with Councillor Evison.