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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 December 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Bob Doris

That is a perfect final comment. I again thank you and the team that has supported you for your evidence this morning. We move into private session.

10:21 Meeting continued in private until 11:09.  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Bob Doris

The general function of the commissioner is described as being

“to promote the wellbeing of future generations by promoting sustainable development by public bodies in all aspects of their decisions, policies and actions”.

Is that enough to deliver the systemic change that you have passionately discussed this morning?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Bob Doris

I absolutely get that. I was not even making an issue of it, but we had to consider whether that was the position of the Children and Young People’s Commissioner—that is all. I just wanted you to respond to that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Bob Doris

That is very informative, and I do not think that the committee has heard about that until today. Thank you for that, Sean.

Carnegie UK said that other models could deliver a lot of the bill’s aims, particularly around accountability and best practice for public bodies. For example, one alternative model could be a committee in the Scottish Parliament that scrutinises all that. Other Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body-supported bodies, such as the Children and Young People’s Commissioner, or bodies such as Environmental Standards Scotland and Audit Scotland, could each have a role to play. Carnegie UK set out a variety of models, so why did you land on the establishment of a new commissioner given that the Parliament is very resistant to establishing any new commissioners?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Bob Doris

I am sorry, but I am not clear about this. I appreciate what you have said, and I agree with some of it, too, but does that mean that you are minded to consider embedding a new commissioner or individual within an existing commissioner’s office to save precious resource that we would not want to spend needlessly?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Bob Doris

I want to ask you a couple of questions on that area, Sarah. They always say, “Don’t ask a question if you’re not quite sure what the answer will be,” but I will ask this anyway. I think that you said that the term “sustainable development” is mentioned in law across the board but that it is not defined. Can you give me an example of where that has caused an issue—where sustainable development has been interpreted and acted on in a way that is different from the definition in your bill?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Bob Doris

The clerks have passed me a wee note, given that I was unsure about what the evidence from the office of the Children and Young People’s Commissioner said and did not want to misrepresent it.

The evidence said:

“’Wellbeing’ is a relative concept ... and challenging to define in law.”

The commissioner recommends

“embedding a human rights-based approach across public authorities.”

I make no comment on that; I just put it on the record because I cast a bit of doubt about what the commissioner had said.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Bob Doris

I was not going to say, “That’s outrageous, it is actually 132—how dare you mislead the committee?” That is not why I asked what the number was. I asked because that is a lot of bodies for a commissioner to scrutinise, hold to account, investigate, look at, monitor and so on. If this is not mainstreamed and made part of the day job of those bodies with an existing oversight role—I know that you think that there is a gap there—we could create quite a substantial bureaucracy in relation to a new commissioner. Can you see that that might be a concern?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Bob Doris

I am very supportive of Mr Briggs’s amendment 195. Fundamentally, however, one of my issues with the proposed legislation is that it could change that doctor-patient relationship. Not being compelled to raise assisted dying is an important protection.

Mr Briggs, clearly you do not want to restrict GPs from being able to raise assisted dying if they feel that it is appropriate, but should GPs be exploring palliative care options, pain management and social care provision that could be improved before they raise the subject of assisted dying? At what point during the conversation should GPs raise it, or should that simply be left to their professional judgment?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Bob Doris

I chair the cross-party group on palliative care in the Scottish Parliament, and the amendments that I have lodged have come from working in partnership with the Scottish Partnership on Palliative Care.

I would stress to Jackie Baillie and to Liam McArthur that the case for more strategic, structural funding that is embedded in palliative care and the hospice movement in general is absolutely core to the civilised society that we all want to see, irrespective of whether the Parliament passes the bill.

Does Jackie Baillie agree that, although there is a variance of views about whether palliative care will be enhanced or undermined by the bill, the bottom line is that we should support palliative care and our hospices, irrespective of this proposed legislation?