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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 26 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Bob Doris

Could there be a situation in which the threshold for ecocide might be doubtful in relation to the law but the Crown Office and others want to see greater penalties than can be imposed under the 2014 act? That might mean that they seek a remedy using the new legislation so that greater penalties can be imposed, rather than because the incident meets the threshold for ecocide. Is that a danger, Mr Whittle?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Bob Doris

My point was not that we should ditch the 12 months; it is about having a bit of nuance and light and shade. Do you have examples of situations where a derogation would be reasonable, rather than ditching the period altogether?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Bob Doris

My question is on the exact same thing, but that is fine, because maybe it shows that there is something in that. I wonder whether 12 months is always a realistic recovery period. It must have been based on incidents or events that have already happened, but the natural cycle of things might mean that 18 to 24 months would give enough time for a robust and evidence-based recovery plan to be put in place, rather than having a cliff edge of 12 months. Does Jonnie Hall have any comments on that?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Ecocide (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 September 2025

Bob Doris

Again, because of time constraints, I will not explore that further.

I will turn to my final comment on the definition. This point does not mean that I disagree with the policy intent of any of this, but I think that there might be a need for clarity. I think that the witnesses on the previous panel pretty much all agreed that, if an individual left a barbecue in an open area and it led to a forest fire and there was significant damage, that would be seen as an ecocide event. However, we heard in the same evidence session that the policy intent is also to create a corporate offence at the very highest level.

A forest fire is an event at a very serious and high level, but that does not necessarily mean that it is a corporate offence. Is there a blurring around the intention of the bill? If we have an offence in relation to barbecue fires, and then a corporate offence at the highest level, they seem to rub up against each other a bit. I do not know whether you heard the previous evidence session, but do you have any comments on that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Bob Doris

Agenda item 2 is consideration of a Scottish statutory instrument. As the instrument is subject to the affirmative procedure, the Parliament must approve it before it comes into force.

I welcome to the meeting the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice—good morning, cabinet secretary—and the following Scottish Government officials: Daniel Blaikie, who is a solicitor; Owen Allen, who is the winter benefits and Scottish welfare fund team leader; and Pamela Forsyth, who is the service manager of the carers support payment and common components branch. Thank you all for joining us today.

Following the evidence session, the committee will be invited under an upcoming agenda item to consider a motion to approve the instrument. I remind everyone that the Scottish Government officials can speak under this item, but not in the debate that will follow under the next agenda item.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make a short opening statement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Bob Doris

There are no further questions, so we move to agenda item 3, which is the formal consideration of motion S6M-17854.

Motion moved,

That the Social Justice and Social Security Committee recommends that the Winter Heating Assistance (Pension Age) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2025 [draft] be approved.—[Shirley-Anne Somerville]

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Bob Doris

Since no member wishes to contribute, cabinet secretary, do you wish to sum up in relation to this non-existent debate?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Bob Doris

The committee will report on the outcome of the instrument in due course. Are members content to delegate responsibility to me or to our convener, should she return, to publish a short factual report to the Parliament on this affirmative instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Bob Doris

Thank you, cabinet secretary, and I hope that your autumn cold—[Interruption.] Oh right—thank you. The clerk has just told me that if I do not say this bitty, we cannot report on the instrument in the normal way. Are members content to delegate responsibility to me to publish a short factual report to the Parliament on the affirmative instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Bob Doris

Of course. Take your time, cabinet secretary.