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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 21 September 2026
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Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 3 September 2026

Bob Doris

We come to Max Bannerman, who I thank for his patience.

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 3 September 2026

Bob Doris

I thank Alex Kerr for that final question, which allows me to note that, when I sat on the Social Justice and Social Security Committee in the previous session of Parliament, we conducted an inquiry into the funding of the third sector that found that longer-term funding certainty was essential. It will be even more essential now, if third sector organisations are going to be key delivery partners and co-production agents as we go through the public service reform process. We need to ensure that that sector is not neglected. That is a nice point to end on.

I thank Dr MacRae, Stephen Boyd and Stephen Boyle, who has had to head off, for their support this morning. Our discussion took a deliberately broad-brush and scene-setting approach. We will sharpen up our scrutiny as we go but, as Stephen Boyle mentioned earlier, a lot of the information that we need to direct us towards where our scrutiny will be most effective is still to be released by Government. Our witnesses are key scrutiny partners, so I thank them again for their input.

Before we move into private session for agenda item 5, I put on record that next week, on 10 September, we will take evidence on this topic from Ivan McKee, the Cabinet Secretary for Public Service Reform.

13:01

Meeting continued in private until 13:26.

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 3 September 2026

Bob Doris

I am wondering—and I will make this rhetorical—whether politicians have a responsibility in how we frame this discussion. I will leave that hanging. With that in mind, I pass to Murdo Fraser.

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 3 September 2026

Bob Doris

Stephen Boyd, Murdo Fraser asked a really important question about the fact that, at the moment, we know little about what the announcements that we heard on Tuesday will actually mean—we have very little information alongside the announcements. I am conscious that the First Minister also said that he was not going to be rigid in his approach, but the information is skeletal at the moment. Is there a balance to be struck between putting meat on the bones pretty quickly and retaining flexibility so that the Government can respond to the three-month consultation, which will start in short order?

Public Service Reform Committee [Draft]

Delivering Public Service Reform

Meeting date: 3 September 2026

Bob Doris

A health warning needs to be put on the data—I appreciate that point.

12:45

Public Service Reform Committee

Deputy Convener

Meeting date: 18 June 2026

Bob Doris

Agenda item 2 is to choose our deputy convener. As set out in motion S7M-00269, which was agreed to on 4 June 2026, the Parliament has agreed that only members of the Scottish National Party are eligible for nomination as deputy convener. I invite a member of that party to nominate one of its members for the post.

Public Service Reform Committee

Deputy Convener

Meeting date: 18 June 2026

Bob Doris

Congratulations, Michelle.

Public Service Reform Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 18 June 2026

Bob Doris

That is us all legal now, as they say. We have declared our interests. Thank you, everyone, for doing that. I look forward to working with you all over the course of the session.

Public Service Reform Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 18 June 2026

Bob Doris

We now move to agenda item 3, which is a decision on whether to take business in private. We are asked to decide whether to take item 4, on the committee’s work programme, in private, and to decide whether our consideration of our work programme should also be taken in private at a subsequent meeting.

For the benefit of those watching and new members of the committee, although committees normally meet in public, under rules 12.3.4 and 12.3.5 of standing orders, they can agree to take items in private where appropriate. Work programme discussions are typically taken in private. That is because they involve planning future business and discussing possible witnesses or approaches, and it could be more effective for that to be done in private. Decisions taken in private will be recorded in the committee’s minutes.

With those caveats, I ask members whether they agree to take item 4 in private.

Members indicated agreement.

Public Service Reform Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 18 June 2026

Bob Doris

Before we move into private, I put on record the committee’s thanks to the Finance and Public Administration Committee in session 6 for its legacy report in relation to public service reform. More generally, I thank that committee for its excellent wider work in session 6.

With that on the record, we will now move to the private part of our meeting.

10:04

Meeting continued in private until 11:17.