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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 October 2025
Bob Doris
We will absolutely be looking at the commissioner’s role during the evidence session. Thank you for that.
I turn to Skye Allan and Kristers Lukins. Does the Scottish Youth Parliament believe that passing the bill is the only way to secure policy coherence?
Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 October 2025
Bob Doris
Before we move on, I want to check something that Lloyd Austin said. Lloyd, I do not have a particular view on this, but I would like to clarify what you said. You mentioned that the phrase “sustainable economic growth” has been used a lot over the years but is not used so much now. Do you believe that sustainable economic growth is desirable or possible?
The reason why I am asking about that is that some people—not necessarily me; I am open minded—might think that questioning sustainable economic growth and passing the legislation that is before us could be a constraint on the pursuit of sustainable economic growth in itself. You can write to us on that if you want. I just want to give you an opportunity to put something on the record in that regard.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 October 2025
Bob Doris
That is helpful. We will move on to questions from Mr Balfour. I would appreciate a comfort break in about five or 10 minutes. If you have not finished all your questions, Mr Balfour, that is absolutely fine—we will take a short break and then we will recommence.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 October 2025
Bob Doris
Thank you.
Skye and Kristers, I am going to give you both the last word, so I will not take your responses just now. When you make your final comments, you can mention the costs of setting up the commissioner’s office and anything else that you feel that you have not had the opportunity to say this morning. Please do not feel bound by that specific question.
Adam, do you have any comments?
Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 October 2025
Bob Doris
Frances?
Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 October 2025
Bob Doris
Thank you very much, Sarah. There was one more question that members had hoped to ask, which we kind of referred to when we were asking about value for money. I should ask it as it has been set out, and our witnesses can either respond to it or not.
Looking at the cost of establishing the commissioner’s office in the financial memorandum, I note that its running costs—not the cost of establishing it—are estimated at £1.26 million each year, and that the Welsh commissioner’s budget in the most recent financial year was £1.8 million. I just wanted to put that on the record and ask the witnesses whether they have any reflections on those costs. You do not have to have any, but that was the only question that we have not asked today.
This is slightly unusual, Sarah, but I am not asking you to answer that question—I just wanted to know whether you wanted to roll another question into that one. If so, you can do so, because I am conscious of the tradition of allowing the member in charge of the bill to ask their questions after all the other questions have been exhausted. It was just an error on our part that we had not asked that question.
I will leave my question sitting there. Is there any related question that you wanted to ask, Sarah?
Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 October 2025
Bob Doris
Our next item of business is our second evidence session on the Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill at stage 1.
I welcome to the meeting Adam Milne, senior policy advocate, Carnegie UK; Frances Guy, chief executive officer, Scotland’s International Development Alliance; Kristers Lukins, member of the Scottish Youth Parliament for Dundee City West; Skye Allan, member of the Scottish Youth Parliament for Dumfriesshire; and Lloyd Austin, convener of the governance group at Scottish Environment LINK.
I also welcome to the meeting our two British Sign Language interpreters, Tessa and Mags. I thank them for joining us. That allows me to say to Kristers in BSL good morning, and welcome to the Scottish Parliament. I apologise for my poor signing. One point that I will take from this meeting is that I could perhaps learn a bit more about how to sign, which would be a good skill to have.
Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 October 2025
Bob Doris
Thank you. Would Kristers Lukins or Skye Allan like to add to the conversation about whether the bill could achieve policy coherence?
Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 October 2025
Bob Doris
I will pass on to Sarah Boyack in a moment. First, there is a question that we probably should have asked when Mr Milne was speaking earlier. I should give you this opportunity, Adam. You mentioned that Carnegie UK had outlined six possible operating models to deliver the ambitions around wellbeing and sustainable development, and the commissioner’s establishment and office was one of those models in the pursuit of those aims—so there would be five others. I am, of course, happy for you to refer us to written evidence, but do you wish to say anything for the Official Report in relation to those other potential models?
Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 30 October 2025
Bob Doris
Thank you, Adam. I just wanted to give you the opportunity to put some of that on the record.