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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 December 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

I thank all our witnesses and, indeed, Tessa Slaughter and Mags Greig for helping to facilitate this morning’s meeting. It was very kind of them.

That concludes our public business. We will now move into private session to consider the very valuable evidence that we have heard.

10:56 Meeting continued in private until 11:09.  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

That is helpful. Has the Scottish Youth Parliament had the opportunity to look at what has happened in Wales? If so, do Kristers Lukins and Skye Allan wish to comment?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

I was just giving the opportunity for our colleagues to finish passing that question to Kristers Lukins.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

Thank you. That is one comment in support of the policy objective. Frances Giuy, what is your view?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

Okay. Thank you. The committee has heard about the changes in Wales. We have taken evidence on the Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Act 2015 and on the impact of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales. I will go back and review that evidence, but we initially heard—it was only one evidence session—that much of the impact was mild, soft and driven by cultural change rather than legislation. However, it is still early days for that act and commissioner. When you look at Wales, what do you feel the impact has been? Has there been a direct impact, or is it more to do with cultural change?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

Thank you, Frances. It is worth noting that the Scottish Government will also give evidence to the committee. It will be helpful for us to put questions to the Government as we scrutinise the bill.

Lloyd Austin, I am about to bring you in. Before I do so, I add that I should have said at the start of the meeting that I am conscious that we have two members of the Scottish Youth Parliament here, but I will not always be sure which of you might wish to answer a question. Sometimes, neither of you might wish to contribute to an answer, which is also okay. When I come to Kristers Lukins and Skye Allan, I will name check both of you and perhaps you could decide between yourselves who is best placed to answer the question. That was my housekeeping mistake from earlier on—I am sorry about that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

I was just giving you a second opportunity, but that is okay. Adam Milne, did you want to comment?

10:15  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

Okay. Lloyd, do you think that a commissioner would be value for money?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

Thank you. I am not sure whether the Scottish Youth Parliament has a view on whether a commissioner would be value for money, so perhaps I will word the question slightly differently. Does the Youth Parliament have any clarity on whether there should be a commissioner or on other ways in which we can enforce some of the obligations that will come into law, should the bill be passed?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

Jeremy Balfour has a follow-up question on this. Jeremy, your question might well be the same as the one that I was about to ask—who knows? Depending on what you ask, I might come in afterwards, too.