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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 March 2026
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Bob Doris

I will endeavour to be as concise as possible.

I want to look at the Scottish Government’s policies and budgets, and the impact that they have had on reducing or—dare I say it?—stopping an increase in child poverty. I want to disaggregate those things into policies that are working and the budgets that are around those policies. They interact with each other, but they are not the same thing. Maybe a couple of the witnesses could put something on the record about the impact that the policies and budgets that the Scottish Government is directing towards tackling child poverty are having.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Bob Doris

Perhaps not. I will ask it now. After I have asked it, I will bring in Fiona, and maybe Paul Traynor could come in after that—I see him nodding his head—for the best use of time.

At the launch, carers will be signposted to other support—some of the signposting will be there—but the provision of wider support is meant to develop over time. I think that we were starting to move into that kind of area. What are your priorities for what the wider support should look like to make it meaningful for carers?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Bob Doris

Thank you, Mr Traynor. I have a final—

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Bob Doris

Good morning, everyone. The business and regulatory impact assessment associated with the legislation states that there should be

“an improved service from launch”

of carer support payment. We have heard that incremental improvements and changes will be made further down the line. Everyone understands that but, at the start, from day 1, what should that improved service look like?

Fiona Collie was trying to come in towards the end of the previous question, so I will go to her first.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Bob Doris

You might have strayed into what my next question was going to be about.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 September 2023

Bob Doris

I have a brief supplementary question. This would be really helpful to us when we are doing our budget scrutiny. There will, of course, be Barnett consequentials, but the offer for three and four-year-olds in England is 570 hours of childcare, whereas it is 1,140 hours in Scotland. I suspect that a significant additional investment is already being made in Scotland, compared with England. It would be helpful if we could get some figures and pound signs on that so that, when we do our budget scrutiny, we can see the inputs for childcare provision in Scotland compared with those in the rest of the UK and make an informed decision during our budget process.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 September 2023

Bob Doris

That is helpful.

I will come back to Shirley-Anne Somerville very briefly. I think that part of what you said in your answer was that there had been discussions with UK officials, at the DWP or elsewhere, about whether deploying that £15 million would have unintended consequences that caused parents to lose out. You have been very diplomatic in relation to how fruitful or otherwise those discussions were. I get that there is a respectful relationship at official level between the two Governments, but can you say any more about what the barriers were and what you tried to do to resolve them?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 September 2023

Bob Doris

Thank you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 September 2023

Bob Doris

I will not ask any follow-up questions because of the time, but I note that the point about sustainable rates is vitally important. Until the summer, I was a member of the Education, Children and Young People Committee, and I know that it is very much alive to that matter.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Child Poverty and Parental Employment Inquiry

Meeting date: 14 September 2023

Bob Doris

I have made these calls in the chamber, so the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice will be aware that I think that, if we are looking to increase the Scottish child payment, a summer supplement to it, paid near the start of the summer holidays in June, would be a focused benefit for a lot of families who struggle for the six-and-a-half weeks when their kids are at home and not at school. I am afraid that I cannot identify where the cash would come from, cabinet secretary, and I know that that is the type of battle that you are grappling with in the current budgetary environment, but I have asked previously if that could be considered.

I have a seven-year-old and two-year-old, so I know that kids grow pretty quickly. I am fortunate in that I can clothe my children, but the school clothing grant is very important for many people. The grant has been uplifted in recent years, but there is also the idea of providing a supplement to the clothing grant at a later time in the academic year.

I get that that is two calls for funding, but we have to ensure that the limited funds that we have are spent in a focused and effective way. Those are my two suggestions. Are they still under consideration?