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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support Needs and Care Experienced Young People (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Bob Doris

I am conscious of the time.

The witnesses have said that the hubs were well intentioned and they performed very well at times, but there were self-evident challenges that all three witnesses have put on the record. What was support like across local authorities and education services for young people who could not attend hubs—for example, if they had additional support needs but did not fit the criteria or if they had other barriers to accessing them? I am sure that there are examples of good practice and of not-so-good practice. It would be good to get on the record a sense of where things went well.

We were listening earlier to Linda O’Neill. Perhaps she would kick off on that, followed by the other two witnesses. We can then pass on to colleagues.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support Needs and Care Experienced Young People (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Bob Doris

That is very helpful.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support Needs and Care Experienced Young People (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Bob Doris

That is helpful. Stephen McGhee, would you like to add anything?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support Needs and Care Experienced Young People (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Bob Doris

I welcome the witnesses who are joining us online and Mr Adamson who is here with the committee.

A wide range of questions will be asked this morning. I will focus on the lockdowns, which unfortunately is a plural term, and particularly on the impact of school closures. Learning and wellbeing hubs were set up for the children of key workers and children with additional support needs. About 6 to 8 per cent of children in Scotland attended those hubs in some fashion. That is clearly not a satisfactory way of dealing with education, but it was a form of support.

To what extent do the witnesses think that the hubs provided meaningful support for young people, particularly those with additional support needs? What worked well? Did we use the right criteria to identify those with additional support needs? I am sure the resource was rationed, due to the pressures at the time.

Mr Adamson, by default because you are sitting here, do you want to go first?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support Needs and Care Experienced Young People (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Bob Doris

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support Needs and Care Experienced Young People (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Bob Doris

That is helpful. I have a specific question for Linda O’Neill before we move on to the next area of questioning. All three witnesses have agreed that Scotland’s local authorities faced challenges in consistently identifying which young people were vulnerable. You mentioned care experienced young people. Were care experienced young people seen as being, by definition, more vulnerable? Were they offered places at hubs as a matter of course, or was that cover patchy? It would be helpful for the committee to know that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support Needs and Care Experienced Young People (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Bob Doris

It is not about accountability; it is about understanding the spend. In April 2022, there will be an initial £145 million to allow local authorities to give teachers permanent contracts for the longer term, rather than their having non-recurring funding for additional support. That is fantastic—we all want that—but we want to ensure that young people who live with additional support needs get a fair and ample slice of the additional funding, be that in a mainstream or non-mainstream setting.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support Needs and Care Experienced Young People (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Bob Doris

Rather than my asserting my view, convener, it is for the witnesses to say that we need to be clear about the money that is in the system and how it has been spent, and we need to be accountable for how it is spent and the political choices that are made.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support Needs and Care Experienced Young People (Impact of Covid-19)

Meeting date: 17 November 2021

Bob Doris

That is at your discretion, convener, given the time constraints.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 11 November 2021

Bob Doris

Thank you, convener, and thanks to Fulton MacGregor for the opening statement. I dropped my request to speak in the chat box before you had completed your presentation, so you partially answered my question towards the end of your opening statement. I was looking at the range of organisations that have signed up for the proposed cross-party group. They are pretty varied, which made me think that there are lots of different voices in the social work system. That can make it difficult for social work to speak with one voice in relation to policy development; some voices might inadvertently be squeezed out.

You mentioned the drug deaths crisis, the national care service and other active on-going policy areas. Do you think that the cross-party group would contribute to ensuring that the social work community has a strong voice at the heart of those policy developments? I was on the committee that brought self-directed support to Scotland. There is probably a need for some post-legislative scrutiny of it and how it is operating in practice. The group will not be a subject committee of the Parliament, but do you think that there is a role for the cross-party group in teasing out some of the strengths and the areas that need to be improved in relation to self-directed support?

I am sorry for the length of my question. I hope that you see it as a positive question, because I am genuinely interested in the role that the cross-party group could play and I want to give you the chance to put some of that on the record.