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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 5 March 2024
Bob Doris
In following that line of questioning, we might have lost sight of the purpose of having a cap. I appreciate that there is pretty sophisticated modelling, given that we have had a concessionary travel scheme for more than a decade.
I am happy for the minister to tell me that I am wrong, but it is my understanding that the cap—which was not exceeded in the previous financial year, so no bus company lost out—is there to protect the public purse. That is pretty important. Can you confirm that, if there was no cap, we could not protect the public purse?
We have modelling work on the concessionary scheme for older people and on what their usage looks like, but we are not yet in a position to administer a cap for the younger persons scheme because the data that we have is—relatively speaking—in its infancy. The heart of the issue is the purpose of the cap.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Bob Doris
That is where I wanted to come in, convener. However, first of all, someone out there will be watching this exchange, and we keep talking about capex. Can we not speak in code, and can you be clear about what you mean by capex?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Bob Doris
I knew that, but let us not codify in a way that is not accessible to the general public. That is really important.
We have had some reassurances that the small vessel replacement programme will be more stable, there will be fewer risks, and there is already more certainty about delivery compared with that for the two complex vehicles. Mr Ruskell established that in exchanges very well. There was a bid for £23 million or so of capital money to upgrade the yard in order to make it more competitive for bidding for anything commercial, including the seven vessels that may come from the Scottish Government. Mr Miller talked about the initial bid being clunky. Can we not speak in euphemisms? What do you mean by clunky? Apologies—you said “chunky”. The bid was too high, was it not?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Bob Doris
Okay. I know that you have to answer this question in a roundabout way, but for every £1 of capital investment the public purse gives Ferguson, does that take £1 off the cost to the taxpayer of delivering the small vessels in the first place? That is what we want to know. If you are saying that we could deliver them more efficiently, I hope that that means more speedily, to a higher standard and cheaper. For every £1 of capital investment that the Government gives to Ferguson, does that shave £1 or more off the overall cost?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Bob Doris
Without giving how much you could shave off the tender that Ferguson could make for the small vessels fleet, can you give an idea of the relationship between capital investment from the Scottish Government and cost savings on any future procurement?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Bob Doris
Technically, you have surpassed the seating requirements of your client. That is what I am trying to get at.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Bob Doris
I do not think that this is contentious at all. I just want clarity. I assume that you want to curtail my line of questioning, which is quite a mundane line of questioning actually. I just want clarity. Thank you.
Let us get that clarity now. Did the original document say 127 cars and 16 lorries all at the same time? If you are right, convener, I am happy to apologise, but I just wanted clarity on that. I was not saying that you were wrong.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Bob Doris
Convener, let me apologise to you if I was a little bit prickly in our exchange there. I was not trying to undermine your questioning; I genuinely wanted to get clarity to better understand it. If I have done that, my apologies to you, convener.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Bob Doris
In my head, £23 million or whatever at today’s prices, invested now, would do everything that you wanted the yard to do, but it could be phased in over a longer period of time and there would be different degrees of efficiencies.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Bob Doris
I hope that someone can give light and shade to the answer to that.