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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
  7. Current session: 14 May 2026 to 7 November 2026
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Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

The room will not speak, but Dr Thompson might.

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

I understand that friction can be caused as a result of how public services are designed, siloed and compartmentalised, but is there any cultural friction? What I took from Sean Duffy’s comment—perhaps wrongly—was that we can all get defensive when change is on the agenda. What are the challenges in dealing with cultural resistance?

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

We will come back at the end for that question, if we have time, Mr Fagan.

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

I do not mean to cut across you, but I want to assure all three witnesses that they will get a good chance to chew over all this stuff, so they do not need to put it all out there at the one time. At the end of the evidence session, even if we are running late, if they feel that they have not managed to get something on the record, I will give them the opportunity to do so. I point that out so that the witnesses can pace their contributions and we can have a discussion. That will be very helpful.

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Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

Carmen Martinez might want to comment on that. Before she comes in, and before we close this evidence session, it would be remiss of us not ask about one final issue in relation to that. As I am sure you will expand on, Carmen, there is the impact of not getting it right for unpaid carers—you should put more on the record about that. Also, as we reform the social care paid workforce, is there a gendered aspect to that? If so, could you put some comments on the record?

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

I will bring in Joe Fagan for the briefest of supplementaries—it will have to be brief, because Paul McLennan has the next set of questions.

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

That is very helpful.

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

I should just give the witnesses a time check. We are past our time and we have more witnesses who are waiting to come in and take part in the next evidence session, but I intend to run this session for another 10 or 15 minutes. I just wanted to make everyone aware of where we are.

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

That is not an easy question to answer with examples, but it is vital. Who wants to reflect on that question?

Public Service Reform Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2027-28

Meeting date: 17 September 2026

Bob Doris

Victoria, do you have anything to add?