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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

More generally.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Building a commercial ship is different from building a naval ship—that comment is continually heard. I have not yet had the opportunity to meet the new chief executive, but I know that that is being worked on.

I am asking these questions because the FMI reports are very clear about some of the challenges. One of the reports says that new cost forecasting processes appear to be adequate and an improvement on previous systems, but that that is clearly reliant on there being accurate drawings, design and engineering information.

There will be some questions about the Glen Rosa and the announcement that has been made in the past couple of weeks. However, as the report highlights, there are still challenges. That is not helpful, to say the least. It is not helpful in terms of the yard’s future. Notwithstanding the strengthening of the board, that raises questions about the strength of the board beforehand. I am not casting aspersions on any individual, but, with regard to the board as an entity, it shows a complete lack of leadership at board level to scrutinise what is actually taking place on the shop floor and what is happening with regard to the management of the yard. I genuinely have concerns about that, because the fact is that it has just lost two orders.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

In all fairness to the shop stewards, they have been asking to have an input for some time. It should not take a meeting that I organised with the Deputy First Minister and two shop stewards to get that point raised yet again, when the shop stewards have been raising those points directly to the chair of the board and the organisation. Fundamentally, the shop stewards want the yard to survive and to thrive. If there is going to be better engagement, I welcome that, and I am sure that that would also be welcomed on the shop floor. However, it should not take that type of action for that to happen.

The committee recently received correspondence from the permanent secretary to the Scottish Government, which said:

“The Directors of FMPG have raised concerns about their ability to operate in a fully commercial manner, taking account of their responsibilities and liabilities as Directors under the Companies Act, alongside constraints on their commercial decisions by virtue of compliance with Scottish Government guidance such as the Scottish Public Finance Manual”.

When I read that, my first thought—notwithstanding the legal aspect that directors clearly have to operate under, which I would not argue with at all—was that that looks as though the directors are passing the buck, because they have not undertaken their duties in the way that they should have. Do you agree?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

I am sorry, but—

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

I am sorry for interrupting, but they are allowed in for only 15 minutes at a time.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Thank you very much, convener, and thank you for your comments, Mr Irwin.

Workstream 2 of the transparency review is on freedom of information. Of the FOI requests, 95 per cent have been replied to within the statutory deadline. How many FOIs have come in?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

SCAD came into being in 2022-23. It would be helpful if you could go back to that point for the annual numbers.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

The first study is clearly about the benchmarking. SCAD came in in 2022-23 and that was the benchmark point. What engagement do you have with the yard?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Am I right in assuming that you do not have any dealings with day-to-day operations and activities?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Do all contracts from Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow go on to Public Contracts Scotland, if they are above the relevant threshold?