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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 November 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I turn to the submission from the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service. This question picks up on something that the chief constable spoke about and concerns the challenge of cybersecurity, which is one of the threats that we know about and which continues to develop and change. You cite it as a risk across the board, and state that

“the threat picture continues to grow”.

It would not be sensible to ask about specific incidents, so I will not do that, but how much of a challenge is that issue, and what impact does it have on budget requirements? That might not have been cited in the same way in the Crown Office submission, but it would be useful to understand the issue in relation to that organisation. I invite Mr Graham to respond first, however.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

It would be really helpful if you were able to find and provide the figures.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

That would be really helpful.

I have a few other questions. The first relates to the written submission from the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service. You note that

“£5m in efficiencies are embedded”

within what you say is your requirement for the next financial year. Could you talk a little bit more about what that constitutes and how that might impact on your service and operability?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Perhaps Mr Logue or Ms Greener can talk about that from an organisational perspective.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

This is a question for both your organisations—I asked it of Police Scotland and the Scottish Police Authority last week. What has been the impact of the increase to employer national insurance contributions on both your organisations? Do you have the figures just now? If not, could you provide them later?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

So, that has been worked through.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

And that will not have an impact on the service that is provided.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

That is all I wanted to understand on that.

I have one final quick question, which relates to another part of the SFRS submission, on the challenges around recruitment of on-call firefighters; I think that we all understand that. I might be asking Sharon Dowey’s question, so I apologise to her—I am just going to crack on and ask it.

Your submission says:

“An additional £4million is being invested annually in revised terms and conditions”.

I suppose the fundamental question is, first, is that continuing investment, and secondly, is it proving effective?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Mr Graham, does that touch on what you referred to earlier? Should these issues be addressed collaboratively across the justice system, or even more widely? It is not only the component parts of the justice system that are facing these challenges, so there is something to be said for ensuring that there is a wider collaborative effort on cyber resilience.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I put this question to the previous panel, and to last week’s panel. What impact have the increased employer national insurance contributions had on your service?