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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 December 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and Drug Services”

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Colin Beattie

Two thirds of cases are uploaded, and one third is not. It seems extraordinary that some bits of the system are okay, and some people have no problem with it, while others have great difficulty. Has any analysis been done of why that is?

I come back to the question whether the Scottish Government is basing its policy decisions on the limited data that is being uploaded.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and Drug Services”

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Colin Beattie

What concerns me about the situation is that, if a problem in the system is systematically affecting certain data that is input and if that data is excluded from consideration, because it has been rejected for some reason or is not working in some way, you will have only a partial picture of what is happening out there.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and Drug Services”

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Colin Beattie

Finally, in paragraph 68, you talk about

“little evidence of tier 3 and 4 (acute) services addressing the specific needs of young people.”

Did you identify any reasons for that?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and Drug Services”

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Colin Beattie

Has it been a problem from the beginning?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and Drug Services”

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Colin Beattie

In your second key message on page 4 of the report, you say:

“Better information is needed to inform service planning and where funding should be directed and prioritised. This includes data on demand, unmet need, cost-effectiveness, and spending on early intervention and community-based support models.”

What improvements are required to achieve that aim, and to what extent is it being addressed?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and Drug Services”

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Colin Beattie

Following up on some of the points about what needs to be done to get data on demand, unmet need, cost effectiveness and so on, you highlight on page 43 how we lack information on the cost effectiveness of services and do not know whether we are spending the right amount in the right place. How does that work? What is happening in that respect? It just seems so basic that we need to align outcomes with the spend that we are making.

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and Drug Services”

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Colin Beattie

Is there any sort of robust system for picking out areas of good practice in this field and making use of them or, at least, making them known elsewhere?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and Drug Services”

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Colin Beattie

Good morning, Auditor General.

Data is something that has come up just once or twice in the past in connection with the public sector. I am looking specifically at the drug and alcohol information system—DAISy—which is supposed to capture all the information from the services that are being delivered. Paragraph 32 on page 18 of your report states that there have been problems with uploading information to the system, and that it would appear that the figure for cases submitted is now down to only

“66 per cent of cases.”

That would appear to indicate that the Government is using limited figures in order to create policy.

What progress is being made to sort out those difficulties in uploading data? The issue seems so basic. The system was launched in April 2021, and we are now three and a half years on. What has been done?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and Drug Services”

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Colin Beattie

Still on the data theme, I note that there is a problem with data sharing. Indeed, in paragraph 33 on page 18, you raise the issue of

“NHS and local authority patient information”

being

“held on different information technology systems”—

we have heard about that before—and the inability of workforces to share data in a joined-up way. What is happening with that? What action is being taken? Again, it seems fairly basic. I guess that third sector providers are caught up in it, too.

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Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and Drug Services”

Meeting date: 21 November 2024

Colin Beattie

Are the legacy systems that are in place simply not flexible enough to be able to share data, or is it a question of layering something on top to permit data sharing to happen? I am thinking of the technical side of things rather than the more artificial side that we can deal with.