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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Beattie

To pick up on what you say about the data, one of the recurring themes in evidence to the committee in the past has been that the data is not always consistent. It is not always produced by councils in the same way, and so compatibility becomes a problem and you do not get the results that you want. Are you satisfied that there will be consistency in the data?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Beattie

Coming back to the Auditor General, surely, when the audit was taking place, questions would have been asked and someone would have been able to answer them. There is no evidence of that in the report.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Beattie

The Auditor General does not refer to any potential fraud or irregularities. However, I would have thought that, if he had been aware that there was some documentation to back up what was said about the spending, he would not have been quite so stark in what he said.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Beattie

The only thing that I would say in response to that is that the Auditor General’s report says, at paragraph 56:

“Transport Scotland did not check any documentary evidence that the £82.5 million had been spent on projects before authorising payments.”

That does not support your statement that there was documentation. Obviously, the Auditor General did not see that documentation.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Beattie

Cabinet secretary, can I start with a wee moan?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Beattie

Looking at the Auditor General’s report, there appears to be a shortage of data on outcomes from some of the investments that are being made. How do you manage to inform the budget when the outcomes from what has already been spent are not clear?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Beattie

Yes, of course.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Beattie

Thank you.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Beattie

I am not querying what the category is made up of—the issue is how evident that is to people who are reading such reports to enable them to understand what it means.

I move on to active travel and public transport, broadly speaking. An important point is that climate change goals and targets are generally long term, because of their very nature. It must be difficult for the Scottish Government to balance competing priorities in making budget decisions, and to balance short-term financial pressures with the ability to project forward and budget for the future. How are you currently doing that?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Colin Beattie

I have one last question. The report made a number of recommendations about how to improve monitoring and evaluation of spending on reducing car use. What have you put in place to support those recommendations?