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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Colin Beattie

Paragraph 12 of your report states:

“the SPPA’s Chief Executive wrote to the Scottish Government with a progress update and a request for additional funds over the medium-term period to deliver Remedy.”

In the bullet points that follow, you deal with different scenarios and you note that, in the worst case, it could be 2030 before this is resolved. What amount of additional funds did the SPPA request from the Scottish Government in September 2025 and what amount did it get? What was approved? Was the full amount received?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Colin Beattie

You know that for sure.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Section 22 Report: “The 2024/25 audit of the Scottish Public Pensions Agency”

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Colin Beattie

From what you have said, should I understand that the Pensions Regulator has a problem in dealing with you as a Scottish entity?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Colin Beattie

I am looking at what needs to happen with regard to delayed discharge. The Auditor General told the committee that the delayed discharge reflects a wider long-standing failure to shift the balance of care from hospitals to community settings. Since I have been on the committee, that has been the headline. Nothing has changed, and I have been sitting here for 15 years.

Malcolm Bell from the Accounts Commission told the committee:

“IJB reserves are being continually depleted, often to shore up day-to-day work”—[Official Report, Public Audit Committee, 21 January 2026; c 29.]

instead of doing what they should be doing, which is transforming the whole-service offering. Witnesses were clear that progress depends on clear leadership, stronger governance and firm accountability at both national and local levels, but none of that seems to have happened.

I say again: this is a repeat. The issue comes up every time that a report comes before the committee, but there is no movement. Why?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Delayed discharges: A symptom of the challenges facing health and social care” and “Community health and social care: Performance 2025”

Meeting date: 18 February 2026

Colin Beattie

Is it correct, then—this is my interpretation of what you are saying to me—that you have moved away from the original concept of transferring resources from the secondary to the primary sector and are now looking to find other funds to go into the IJBs?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”

Meeting date: 11 February 2026

Colin Beattie

I always look at voluntary redundancy—while it is, in a way, more humane—from a management point of view. You do not know who is going to apply, and, in the context of workforce planning, it becomes in itself a blunt instrument. You are getting rid of numbers, but what about skills, experience and so on?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”

Meeting date: 11 February 2026

Colin Beattie

Before that, I have a question on the back of your answer. You have usefully sketched out the background and the situation, but you have not said why workforce planning is so difficult. Why is it so difficult?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”

Meeting date: 11 February 2026

Colin Beattie

I return to the question of the mismatch. Is Police Scotland conscious of that and working to deal with it? Is it going to be dealt with? If so, when? I cannot see that the measures will work without an alignment.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”

Meeting date: 11 February 2026

Colin Beattie

But one would think that there would be some knowledge of at least the ballpark figure that you need. Police Scotland’s budget submission, for example, says that it needs 850 additional officers. Surely, even taking a broad approach, you could say that it is going to be between 800 and 850. You have history to build on, and you understand where the future pressure points are and where you will need additional resources. One would not think that it was that difficult to come up with a number.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Best Value in policing: Joint Best Value audit of policing in Scotland”

Meeting date: 11 February 2026

Colin Beattie

I will go back to something that was touched on a few minutes ago. Paragraph 26 of the report explains that the workforce plan

“is not aligned to MTFP”

and Fiona Mitchell-Knight emphasised that. The report says that

“the current financial and workforce plans do not support meaningful discussions within policing on budgets or with Scottish Government on funding”,

which is something that you have touched on in the past few minutes. Paragraph 26 also says that

“Police Scotland intends to present updated financial implications of the workforce plan to deliver the 2030 Vision in the first quarter of 2026/27.”

There seems to be a disconnect between financial planning and workforce planning. How will the financial implications of the workforce plan help to inform delivery of the 2030 vision when more evidence-based workforce performance reporting will take place later?