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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 March 2026
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Public Audit Committee

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Colin Beattie

Coming at this from a slightly different angle, I note that your report highlights that the forecasts for the funding gap cover only direct expenditure and do not include implementation and operational costs. You highlight the implementation costs—if I recall correctly, there is an estimated accumulated figure of £715 million up to 2025-26—and the fact that operational spending in 2023-24 exceeded block grant funding by £275 million, which is a big gap. How sustainable is it for the Scottish Government to continue to fund that?

Public Audit Committee

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Colin Beattie

Auditor General, I will continue with questions on the projected deficit. At the moment, the deficit is £141 million, and it is forecast to rise to £770 million by 2029-30. In your opening remarks, I think that you said that it “could grow” to £770 million. The forecast must be based on some existing factors that could be varied by external influence or the decisions of the Scottish Government. Will you run through what factors are driving that increase and what could be done to mitigate it?

Public Audit Committee

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Colin Beattie

That takes me on to a daft-laddie question about the actual amount of the increase. You have given an indication that the increase is driven, for example, by higher take-up of benefits and so on, but that would not account for everything, because a lot of the higher take-up has already been factored in. What is the maths behind the calculation that gets you to £770 million? I suppose that you make an assumption about inflation and the amount by which the payments might be increased. What other variables do you take into account?

Public Audit Committee

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Colin Beattie

Can I assume that, at this point, there is no indication of the Scottish Government’s plans for how it will deal with that potential gap?

Public Audit Committee

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Colin Beattie

But surely that variable could be applied to almost any part of the Scottish budget, and not just the part that we are discussing. We have no control over the changes that happen at Westminster and the impact on our budget. We cannot make contingencies for every single possible potential change.

Public Audit Committee

“Adult Disability Payment”

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Colin Beattie

Have you formed any view on whether the different approach by the Scottish Government represents value for money, given the potential impact on public services?

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Colin Beattie

I would like to circle back to diversity. Paragraph 60 of the Auditor General’s report says:

“Issues of diversity remain in some boards, both in terms of protected characteristics and in bringing in the perspective of people who use services.”

How can that situation be improved? There is a great difficulty in getting non-executive directors at the best of times. I have had the experience of jobs being re-advertised and so on when trying to increase that pool. Getting diverse representation is quite complex, because diversity is very diverse. How do you reach out to the different groupings that you would like to see represented on the boards?

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Colin Beattie

I will move on a little bit. The Auditor General’s report highlights the turnover of senior staff in 2023-24 and 2024-25, with 12 new chief executives, including 10 new chief executives of territorial boards. In addition, more than 50 per cent of integration joint boards have reported a turnover in their senior leadership. That is a huge challenge. What process is in place to manage stability, and is it successful? You need synergy among the senior management to be able to run a successful organisation, and recruiting so many new people will obviously create, at least temporarily, a slight hiatus in the process. How can the appointment process ensure that the chairs and non-executives are able to provide stability during a period of leadership change?

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Colin Beattie

The high level of turnover among senior executives must create issues of stability and continuity, and there does not seem to be much in place to manage that.

Public Audit Committee

“NHS in Scotland: Spotlight on governance”

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Colin Beattie

Is the process that the code of conduct requires robust enough for the job?