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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 January 2026
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Scotland’s Supply Chain

Meeting date: 15 December 2021

Colin Beattie

I am sure that the committee would be interested in any information that you can share with us.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Colin Beattie

Could it not have recruited someone to take up that position?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Colin Beattie

The deficiencies that were identified in the programme sound remarkably familiar to those in other ICT programmes—they do not sound new to me. You would have thought, therefore, that they would have been addressed from the beginning instead of coming out in the rehearsal. Are they not the same problems that come up again and again?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Colin Beattie

I have one last question. The cost of the delay is not inconsiderable, but is Scotland being disadvantaged in any other way by the one-year delay?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Colin Beattie

That brings me to the Scottish Government’s technology assurance framework. The reviews under that framework are intended to improve the delivery of such programmes. Can you tell us more about the assessments that were made and how the results were considered?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Colin Beattie

Okay. I will move on to a couple of final questions. England went ahead with its census, and part of the justification for that appears to be that, in England and Wales, administrative data from other public bodies was used to supplement data gaps. However, the report says that such information

“was not available for Scotland”.

Was NRS unable to access the data? Does it not have the necessary data for Scotland? What was the reasoning behind that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Colin Beattie

I would like to explore the management of the census programme. We have had section 22 reports about NRS in the past. A lot of the issues were caused by ICT problems; a lot were about management. Given that we are talking about one of the Scottish Government’s biggest ICT programmes and given our memory of what has happened previously, have any steps been taken to provide additional support? A lot of the section 22 reports that we have seen have been for similar organisations. Some departments seem to be too remote from any control. This is one of the biggest ICT projects. What was done to provide extra support?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Colin Beattie

I want to take that a step further. The report states that the NRS

“appraisal concluded that any options to deliver the census in 2021 would represent a significant risk to data quality”.

What options were considered? Were all the options decided against only because of the anticipated “drop in response rate”? Does the reference to

“potential bias in the data”

refer to the distortion that would be caused by a drop in the response rate?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Colin Beattie

I would like some clarification. Was NRS refused that information, for data protection purposes or whatever, or is it that the data for Scotland does not exist as a separate database?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of National Records of Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Colin Beattie

I want to move on to an issue that the convener has already touched on. We were talking about the substantial impact of Covid-19 on the census programme, but as you have said, challenges to the programme had been identified before the pandemic. Can you give us some detail on those specific challenges and the steps that were taken to address them?