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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 September 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Colin Beattie

It sounds like a bit of a compromise. Clearly, the original target and delivery under it have changed. To me, the changes that you have made seem to be fundamental. It will take years longer to get all the benefits that were anticipated from completion of the land register, and we do not have a target for that. You hope that, by 2024, you will get some of the benefits, albeit that how that will be achieved seems in some ways to be a little vague. Has that been discussed with your sponsor department in the Scottish Government? Is there clarity on how things are going forward?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Colin Beattie

There is a bit of a question about that, but never mind. I will move on to something else.

You mentioned the loss of your financial reserve because, obviously, your status changed, so the difference between your fees and outgoings is now met by the Scottish Government. Obviously, there are additional costs even in achieving the more limited target for 2024 that you are looking at. Has the Scottish Government committed to funding that over the years?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Colin Beattie

Can you explain in more detail what unlocking the sasine register means?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Colin Beattie

So just to be clear, as an alternative to completing the land register we will—semi-permanently, I presume—still run the sasine register alongside it?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Colin Beattie

How closely do you work with the Scottish Government sponsor department on that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Colin Beattie

Can you explain that a bit more?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 2 March 2022

Colin Beattie

Therefore, one could describe that as a pragmatic compromise.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Colin Beattie

I am sure that there will be an appetite for that when the time comes.

I want to move on to fraud and irregularities around Covid-19 expenditure. Obviously, the two big business support schemes totalled nearly £1.6 billion. They responded quickly to Covid-19. Obviously, there was a need to get money to the right place at the right time very quickly, which opens up a higher-risk element.

I notice that the Scottish Government estimates that fraud and error will account for 1 to 2 per cent of those payments, involving approximately £16 million to £32 million. How does that equate to the figures that we see coming from Westminster, which are obviously on a bigger scale? We see estimates from there of £15 billion or more. Have we been better at it? Given that Westminster has had that experience, why are we better? Why is the figure not proportionately as high here?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Colin Beattie

The logical extension of that is that until you know the whole picture, you cannot know whether all the estimates that you are making are particularly accurate.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2020/21 audit of Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Colin Beattie

Local authorities are confirming to you the number of cases and so on, but you do not have information on what they are doing about them. You say that the authorities are pursuing cases vigorously, but you have no evidence to show that.