Skip to main content
Loading…

Chamber and committees

Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

Filter your results Hide all filters

Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 January 2026
Select which types of business to include


Select level of detail in results

Displaying 2875 contributions

|

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

Have you had any discussions with the commission as to how long those directions might be in place?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

We have always been a wee bit vague as to how much authority the SPCB has over you. Yours is an independent function. Can you define the areas in which the SPCB exerts governance over your office and the ways in which it supports your office, which it funds? Where could that be improved? Is the SPCB the major governing body that you refer to?

Public Audit Committee

Auditor General for Scotland (Work Programme)

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

There are two aspects to that. You talked about R100. Some people are excluded because the physical service has not been made available to them, which has an impact on them, their business and so on. However, there are also those who choose not to engage and not to be part of the digital world. There is a surprising number of such people, as I have found at first hand. If they make that choice, is that a human rights issue? Probably not: it is their choice. Some people may not wish to engage, because of age or any other reason. How do you separate out the genuine human rights issue, in order to target those who are most in need of digital inclusion?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

What do you consider to be your current relationship with the two subject committees and the standards commissioner? Are your relationships with those working?

Public Audit Committee

Auditor General for Scotland (Work Programme)

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

I guess that there is always a desire to quantify and put a figure or number on exclusion. There seems to be lots of different wrinkles in that. How will you tease those out and ensure that, when you put a number on something, you are putting it on the right thing?

Public Audit Committee

Auditor General for Scotland (Work Programme)

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

My second question is about estates management. As you know, over the years we have looked at figures from colleges and the NHS in particular where there have been maintenance backlogs that have been categorised from urgent to less so. You are going to be doing some work on this. Are you going to pick out the college sector and NHS for it and give us some sort of a feel for where they are going—are they improving or are they going down? There is a lot of money involved in those sectors and we need to understand the issues.

Public Audit Committee

Auditor General for Scotland (Work Programme)

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

Before I ask those questions, I want to briefly refer back to the convener’s remarks about the ferries at the beginning of the session. As you know, I have raised the possibility of an investigation on a number of occasions in the past months. I am pleased to hear that you are going to take a serious look at the committee’s recommendations and come back to us on them.

There is no pressure here, but I would find it extremely difficult to understand it if a decision was made not to carry out some sort of scrutiny, because tens of millions of pounds of public money have been involved, and people have the right to know where that money has gone. It is over to you on that decision. As I said, there is no pressure.

I do not expect a response to that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

What is unclear to me is where the support is for you in terms of governance and the oversight that you are talking about. Clearly, it failed previously. The committee is trying to ascertain the possibilities of it failing again down the line—not necessarily now, but in five or 10 years. Are there adequate red flags, as you call them, that somebody could pick up and respond to?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

I will talk about governance. I refer you to page 4 and exhibit 1 of the Audit Scotland report, which gives a wee graph on your relationship with stakeholders. The report says that the auditor has commented that

“issues remain where the SPCB and the Commissioner’s Office need ‘to work together to address some of the specific governance issues identified’”.

Will you give an update on what is happening in that regard, what discussions you are having and what governance issues have been of most concern and perhaps been resolved?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

It then produces a report on that.