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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 January 2026
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Public Audit Committee

“New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Colin Beattie

Surely, in the sponsorship role, you would be picking up on the issues around CMAL and, where necessary, feeding that back to ministers.

Public Audit Committee

“New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Colin Beattie

Thanks for that clarification, which leads me neatly to issues around record keeping. The committee concluded at paragraph 47 of the report that record and note keeping of meetings throughout the vessels project involving Scottish ministers was

“weak and fell well short of the standards of transparency and accountability we would expect.”

The Government’s response noted that

“further guidance has been issued and all parties ... continue to make improvements in record keeping”

and so on.

Can you provide any detail of what those “improvements in record keeping” have involved since our report was published?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Scottish Canals”

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Colin Beattie

However, you have gone outside to get consultant support. At least, Scottish Canals has.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Scottish Canals”

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Colin Beattie

It has spent £500,000 on that, with another £100,000 in the past financial year.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Scottish Canals”

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Colin Beattie

That is quite a lot of money.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Scottish Canals”

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Colin Beattie

It is not as quick as you might think, is it?

11:15  

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of Scottish Canals”

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Colin Beattie

You made an important point about ownership of the model. The current consultants own that model, so I presume that Scottish Canals will have to pay them something.

Public Audit Committee

“New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Colin Beattie

I am pleased to hear that we have learned lessons and that improvements have been put in place, but we are looking back to see what happened. Do you agree—I guess that this is a question for Transport Scotland—that ministers were left somewhat blind as to what was going on in the initial stages because of the lack of reporting from Transport Scotland?

Public Audit Committee

“New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Colin Beattie

Do you think that there was an expectation among the participating stakeholders that the project steering group had a strong role in this, when that did not exist?

Public Audit Committee

“New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 21 September 2023

Colin Beattie

I will move on from sponsorship, over which there is clearly a question mark.

During our scrutiny, Transport Scotland came in for criticism in relation to, at times, its attendance at committee to give evidence, and late and incomplete evidence being received from it with little explanation as to why. That led the committee to question the

“level of respect and regard shown for accountability and parliamentary scrutiny.”

It also issued important evidence to the committee the day after our report was agreed, meaning that it could not be used to better inform the report’s conclusions. Does that show evidence of “respect and regard” for parliamentary scrutiny?